Can I be denied a promotion for going to my appointments?

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:00:06 -0500

I was supposed to get my 4 in August but they keep denying because I’m always at appointments Because I’m going through a MEB

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 4:24 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:24:30 -0500

Any FLAGs or other possible Administrative Actions against you other than an MEB?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 4:44 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:44:55 -0500

What do your counseling statements say regarding you not be recommended for promotion?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 4:47 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:47:43 -0500

Confirm that you have 6 months TIG and 24 months TIS.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 5:21 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:21:31 -0500

By the way, for your next counseling regarding promotion, if they haven't specified why you haven't been given an automatic promotion, write that on your counseling statement, and repeat until you have an answer in writing or the promotion.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 5:24 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:24:02 -0500

Are you certain you're not flagged since you're pending an MEB?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 6:25 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:25:09 -0500

For the record, your commander knows that you are eligible for an automatic promotion because he signs the promotion list monthly, so when you do your open door have that in mind, so you understand he also could have fixed this. Your commander is not your advocate in this situation

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Jan 14 at 2019 6:53 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:53:37 -0500

If you are going through an MEB, in all odds you are not going to get promoted.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 8:08 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:08:18 -0500

If the promotion is with a waiver, they do not have to approve a waiver for you. If you have met time in service and time in grade then they have to do a formal counseling to let you know why. The command would have to deny the automatic promotion and submit paperwork to stop an automatic promotion. If this wasn’t done and you have the time in service and the time in grade for promotion to E4 they would have to promote you with the original effective date. I hope this helps, good luck to you....

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jan 14 at 2019 10:29 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 22:29:41 -0500

Are you barred or flagged? MEB is a process not a given, it is doubtful a command would illegally withhold promotion, too much at risk. Simply as to speak to the command team and ask straight up! Thank you for your service.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Jan 14 at 2019 11:46 PM

MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 23:46:29 -0500

If I understand things correctly... promotion to E-4 is automatic in the Army and Air Force (not sure about Navy/Marines). Unless there is a flag on your record preventing it, I'd say your command owes an explanation. They may be using the logic of "well, he's going through MEB so we're gonna lose him anyway" but they still have to justify in writing why the promotion is being withheld.

I'd tactfully ask to speak with your 1SG/CSM and Commander and have them explain their decision to deny the automatic promotion. Assuming you've met the TIS/TIG requirements, they must justify the withholding. Better yet, have your PSG find the answer or go with you to the Commander's office. That's his/her responsibility also.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2019 8:33 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:33:14 -0500

If you cant do your job why should you be promoted? Legitimate question you need to be able to answer if you want your leadership to change their mind.

Response by SSG Damon Alexander made Jan 17 at 2019 11:48 AM

SSG Damon Alexander — Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:48:11 -0500

If you were in my Platoon, while I was active duty, I wouldn't promote you either, but would give it too one of your ABLE-BODIED Peers...simple, you're on borrowed time, and serve no future purpose to our mission, you are done, stick a fork in you...

Response by COL William Oseles made Jan 18 at 2019 12:03 AM

COL William Oseles — Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:03:36 -0500

There are many things that can cause a Flag for favorable actions, but there really should counsel you on it.
For instance, you say you are in the MEB process, has you condition caused you to fail part of the PT Test? That is one that will do it right there unless you have a profile for an event.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2019 1:24 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:24:24 -0500

Are you currently flagged for PT or anything really? Are you talking automatic promotion or waiver? And if you are always at appointments what warrants a waiver be approved for you?