Can a permanent profile be lifted? Can your PULHES be improved?

SGT John Hemenway — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 04:42:48 -0400

I'm a 37F reservist who will soon be transferring to an Airborne unit. I'm excited, but also concerned. A few years ago, I had difficulties passing my hearing test on the very high frequencies and ended up with a permanent profile, and PULHES of 111311... It ruined my ability to attend DLI, and am now worried it'll ruin my ability to attend Jump School. I've since taken my hearing a lot more seriously, and am consistently scoring as an H2 on the last three hearing tests. Is there a way to challenge my permanent profile and change my current PULHES? LHI says I'm an "H2" but my PULHES still reads 111311. I'm not sure what the difference is, or if that means I can jump or not. Any actionable info is greatly appreciated.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Apr 18 at 2018 5:04 AM

SGM Steve Wettstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:04:02 -0400

Yes, your doctor could change it if you prove to them that you have over come whatever the profile was for. If you have a few hearing tests that you have passed that should show them that your hearing is better and you no longer need a profile for it.

Response by SGT Mark Halmrast made Apr 18 at 2018 5:21 AM

SGT Mark Halmrast — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:21:24 -0400

I don't know about your ears...but I will comment on...Airborne!

AATW SGT John Hemenway

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Apr 18 at 2018 10:02 AM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:02:33 -0400

A permanent profile isn't really "permanent." It can be lifted you just have to work with your PCM. If your hearing has improved go talk to your PCM to remove your permanent profile and update your PULHES. Otherwise it's just going to stay the way it is.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Apr 18 at 2018 11:22 AM

MSG Dan Castaneda — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:22:39 -0400

I have an H3 profile for 50% hearing loss. I've had this profile since 2007 and have been to many schools since. There are waivers for every school the Army has to include jump school. I would call the 507th school house and have them email you a copy of their waiver form and have your doctor fill it out. Also, ask them exactly what it is they are looking for. Whether it be a specific person's signature. Your only going to get one crack at this. It should be easy. Good luck.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 8:47 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:47:38 -0400

Yes you can get it changed. It’s not even really that hard. I had a two that needed to be changed in order to attend WOCS. I went to the medical detachment and sat down with the PA and discussed the issue. End result was I got the two changed to a one and was able to attend WOCS.

I’m in the national guard so I can’t vouch for the reserves but I would assume that it would involve speaking with a military DR. Just make sure you pay extra car to not be around any loud noises for 24hr before and have the last three hearing test available. They’ll probably want them to establish a trend.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 18 at 2018 9:51 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:51:49 -0400

What makes you think a permanent profile will stop jump school? I came in wearing glasses and jumped for 21 out of my 22.5 years in

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2019 2:49 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 14:49:49 -0400

Did you end up going to jump school with H3?