Call to court martial 75th Ranger's Chaplain?

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:11:11 -0400

MRFF is calling for his court martial over a video he appeared in while in while in uniform to promote his book.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/11/jesus-army-ranger-book-trouble/71062412/

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2015 9:17 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:17:49 -0400

Why is everyone slandering the 75th ranger regiment? How about we talk about that sergeant major who ran a prostitution rink with his female soldiers and higher ups?? The chaplain did nothing wrong, spreading the word of Jesus Christ? HE'S A CHAPLAIN

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jun 11 at 2015 10:04 PM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:04:59 -0400

You HAVE GOT TO be kidding! We have a CHAPLAIN... A CHRISTIAN CHAPLAIN, wears a cross on his collar and someone is offended because a CHRISTIAN CHAPLAIN talks about Jesus Christ!?!?!?!?! REALLY!?
So does anyone care if talking about two men having sex offends me? Nope. How about that it offends me that....whatever...Nope. Because I am White, Male AND Christian, I am fair game.
What did we fight for? Seems anymore, only the easily offended can speak their mind...

GOD FORGIVE AMERICA

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jun 11 at 2015 10:09 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:09:38 -0400

Regs are regs, whether we like them or not.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2015 10:16 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:16:32 -0400

What he violated was using his uniform to sell his book. He will probably receive a verbal reprimand for an honest mistake, nothing more.

The MRFF is always offended. They constantly call for people to be relieved for everything. A quick Google will show a stream of ridiculous claims. They are like the PETA of religious watch dog groups.
To put it in perspective, it's about the equivalent of PETA calling for cruelty to animals charge for someone killing a fly.

Response by SSG Brian Kresge made Jun 12 at 2015 4:50 PM

SSG Brian Kresge — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:50:17 -0400

I'm a strong believer in "no religious test," but you know, a chaplain is still a representative of their respective denomination/religious faith. The whole reason they are able to be a chaplain is because they are endorsed by an authorized ecclesiastical endorser.

If Chaplain (Rabbi) Goldstein, who recently retired, were to promote a book in uniform, or as he has on numerous occasions, promoted Judaism to Jews, in uniform, would there be this kind of outrage? He affiliates with Chabad Lubavitch (as I do), an Orthodox Jewish group, which frequently uses his image in uniform to promote Judaism and Jewish service in the military.

I am sorry my Christian friends in uniform have to go through this. Sometimes it gets to be too much. Organizations like the MRFF, that really could help by pursuing true cases of religious-based discrimination (and end up trolling for this kind of stuff to stay relevant), are all over it, and I am sorry to see that.

Response by PO2 Nathan Meyer made Jun 12 at 2015 4:53 PM

PO2 Nathan Meyer — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:53:07 -0400

A punishment should fit the crime. "Hey chaplain. Don't do that again, you really started a shit storm."

Sounds like punishment enough. The military has a lot worse problems that plague them than a chaplain wearing his uniform in a video.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2015 3:01 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:01:22 -0500

I had to look up MRFF because I'd never heard of them before. I can see that it is basically a group that wishes to diminish Christian influence in the military (a strange use of their time, to say the least), so not surprising that they're going after the Chaplain that way. Considering the source of the supposed outrage though, I'm surprised people are taking it that seriously.