Can your chain of command pull you from your college classes if you fail an ACFT and come under a flag?

2023-01-10T22:22:58-05:00

Can your chain of command pull you from your college classes if you fail an acft and come under a flag?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2023 10:30 PM

2023-01-10T22:30:39-05:00

As in, you're taking online college courses and are now flagged? I'm not aware they can pull you from classes, however....the flag will stop you from getting TA, though.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Jan 11 at 2023 12:13 AM

2023-01-11T00:13:20-05:00

They should not be following you everywhere off duty but they can assign you duties within reason at times that they chose. Can they put you on duty roster every time you have a class, absolutely. What will get them in a pickle is if they treat you differently than other failures and you have proof of the different treatment.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2023 4:06 AM

2023-01-11T04:06:23-05:00

If you're in online school and your tuition is already paid for, what you do after work is your business. Your Commander can't disenroll from a college class. However, once you are flagged you are no longer eligible for TA. If you're going to class during the work day, your Commander has 100% ability to control where you spend your work hours

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2023 8:08 AM

2023-01-11T08:08:11-05:00

Now that you are flagged, you should read the whole reg, it's only 34 pages.
AR 600–8–2 • 5 April 2021
Chapter 3 Prohibitions and Retention of Flagged Personnel
3–1. Actions prohibited by a Flag
f. Attendance at military or civilian schools. The waiver approval authority for attendance at military or civilian schools is the DCS, G–3/5/7 (DAMO–TR).
(3) Civilian schools are defined as those post-secondary and technical institutions in which a Soldier takes, either on a full- or part-time basis, courses that were fully or partially funded by the Army. This does not apply to self-funded education courses taken at civilian schools.

If the college classes are funded at all by the Army, or if the classes are during the duty day, that is a favorable personnel action that is now suspended.
If you are paying 100% of the tuition an fees out of pocket, and the classes are after duty, that is not a favorable personnel action.

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Jan 11 at 2023 11:53 AM

2023-01-11T11:53:19-05:00

If you are using TA for college and you're flagged, you aren't going to get TA until you're not flagged anymore. If you are paying 100% out of pocket, they can't do anything about you taking college classes off duty - on duty they don't have to let you work on it. Whether you have TA or not.