What advice would you give an NCO who was punished for an inappropriate relationship with another NCO (who was not punished)?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Jul 2024 18:51:46 -0400

I have an NCO that was given a Relief for Cause NCOER due to being found guilty of having a inappropriate relationship with another NCO in their Battalion. They both are NCOs. When Judgement came back the other NCO was found not guilty, and he was found guilty 5 months later. That regulations states that there needs to be a relationship. A commanders Inquiry was conducted and the same commander at BDE level upheld his own decision. It didn't go to the higher authority. Also the CSM bullied soldiers to not show or give evidence to clear the soldier. the Legal team withheld A key military document as well. NCO received a LOR and A Relief for Cause. what should be the next step for this NCO?

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jul 20 at 2024 3:07 AM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:07:35 -0400

Refer to the Trial Defense Section of the Staff Judge Advocate's Office. Barracks and Lawyer should never be used as a descriptive for you.

Response by Sgt Arnold Dechene made Jul 20 at 2024 5:44 AM

Sgt Arnold Dechene — Sat, 20 Jul 2024 05:44:23 -0400

Get a lawyer!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2024 1:20 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 22 Jul 2024 01:20:05 -0400

This sounds like a huge block of Swiss cheese. Lots of holes in this narrative. Judgemental from what? Why 5 months later for the "guilty" one? Does anyone have proof the CSM directed not to give evidence? Proof the legal team withheld evidence?

If this all happened, the NCO in question has two options: get with TDS or get out.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Jul 22 at 2024 9:25 AM

MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P — Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:25:32 -0400

First thing I would do is stop posting on social media. Any comments, verbal or written, can and WILL be used in further administrative and/or legal actions.
Second, that member needs to RUN, not walk, to the nearest Area Defense Council (or whatever the Army equivalent is) for assistance. They should have requested them from the start but better late than never.
Third, that member needs to follow whatever advice ADC gives to the letter.

Response by MSG Gerry Poe made Aug 6 at 2024 3:19 PM

MSG Gerry Poe — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 15:19:50 -0400

Hit up TDS at the Soldier's installation and secondly don't have inappropriate relationships with other NCOs. Just Say'n!

Response by SFC Enrique Guadalupe made Sep 2 at 2024 6:09 PM

SFC Enrique Guadalupe — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 18:09:04 -0400

lesson learned, keep it moving an NCOS job is to lead by example. You have other soldiers to worry about