At what point do Army Schools turn into College instead of IET reruns?

SSG Raymond Whitener — Tue, 06 Oct 2015 12:31:43 -0400

At WLC you will learn how to clean and become an NCO. At WOCS you will be inundated with PT, cleaning, and being treated like you are in IET. At what point do we rid our PD schools of IET mentality?

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 12:36 PM

1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Oct 2015 12:36:29 -0400

Our school are run differently. The only school where you are treated like a recruit in Drill Instructor School.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 12:49 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Oct 2015 12:49:01 -0400

One word.....TRADOC

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2015 6:46 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 18:46:35 -0500

I think this is one of the problems of the Army. We try to treat people like they are not fully grown and capable adults. When I counsel my soldiers, I open it by saying that they should see themselves as adults, not just "privates." If you get them out of that mentality where they think they are being babysat, you can empower them to make sensible independent decisions (thereby breeding initiative).

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2015 10:21 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 22:21:53 -0500

I understand my experience may have been out of the ordinary, but when I went through WLC, the SGLs told us, "Your are either an NCO, or your unit believes you are ready to become one, so you will be treated like NCOs, until you prove us wrong." It was the squad leader of the day's responsibility to ensure everyone was in class and ready to study when the instructor walked in in the morning. We were released at 1600, and it was on the individual to study as needed for the day. I felt that I was treated as an adult and a soldier. We didn't suffer through needless IET type crap. For that reason I always recommend to soldiers that if given the chance they choose Camp William UT for WLC. Overall the Cadre were exemplary professionals.