As an active duty service member, if you are in your Dress Blues do you Salute an Officer in the Public Health Service or an Officer in NOAA?

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:29:42 -0400

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2020 5:39 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:39:40 -0400

If you do not get any responses to your question from anyone else then there is an old military saying that applies in this case: "when in doubt, salute".

Response by SGT Matthew S. made Sep 14 at 2020 6:21 PM

SGT Matthew S. — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 18:21:50 -0400

I didn't realize the NOAA had Officers...

My recollection is getting fuzzier as the years go by, but I do recall a part about saluting officers of a "uniformed public service". I always took that to mean organizations like a police department, fire department, etc, and always figured you'd be met with some odd looks but at least you'd be in the right. My two cents is that if I was in uniform and encountered an identified or uniformed Officer under saluting circumstances, I would salute and let them correct me from there if they felt it necessary.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2020 7:40 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:40:50 -0400

Yes I believe USPHS Corps Officers shall be saluted by any junior and they will salute their seniors as well. They are commissioned officers just like any other.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2020 7:43 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:43:47 -0400

From Army Regulation 600–25
Chapter 2
Salutes and Courtesies
2–1. Hand salutes and salutes with arms
a. For instructions on executing the hand salute, see Training Circular (TC) 3–21.5.
b. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States (Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard), the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Ad- ministration, and Public Health Service.

I’m assuming the other branches would do the same.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2020 7:48 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:48:10 -0400

U S Navy
CHAPTER 9
CUSTOMS AND COURTESIES

WHOM TO SALUTE.—Enlisted personnel salute all officers, and officers salute their seniors. Salutes are returned by persons saluted except when they are uncovered—the person saluted should acknowledge the salute with an appropriate greeting or a nod of the head.
Salutes are rendered to all of the following officers:
• Navy.
• Army.
• Air Force.
Aboard Ship
When boarding a ship that is flying the national ensign, all persons in the naval service must do the following:
1. Stop on reaching the upper platform on the accommodation ladder or the shipboard end of the brow,
2. Face the ensign,
3. Salute, and
4. Then salute the officer of the deck (OOD).
On leaving the ship, personnel render the salutes in reverse order—first to the OOD and then to the national ensign. These salutes also are rendered aboard foreign men-of-war.
You are required to salute all flag officers (officers above the grade of captain), the commanding officer, and visiting officers (senior to the commanding officer) on every occasion of meeting, passing near, or being addressed. On your first daily meeting, you salute all senior officers attached to your ship or station. Many ships consider salutes rendered at quarters sufficient for this first salute of the day. When the progress of a senior officer may be blocked, officers and enlisted personnel clear a path by calling out “Gangway” and stand at attention facing the senior officer until he/she passes.
In Boats
When a boat is not under way, the person in charge salutes officers that come alongside or pass nearby. If there is no one in charge, all those in the boat render the salute. Boat coxswains salute all officers entering or leaving their boats. (Although it is customary to stand when saluting, if the safety of the boat is endangered by standing, remain seated.) When boat awnings are spread, enlisted personnel sit at attention while saluting; they should not rise. Officers seated in boats rise when rendering salutes to seniors who are entering or leaving.
When boats pass each other with embarked officers or officials in view, hand salutes are rendered by the senior officer and coxswain in each boat. Coxswains rise to salute unless it is dangerous or impracticable to do so.
• Marine Corps.
• Coast Guard.
• National Administration.
Atmospheric
• Public Health Service.
• Foreign military services.
Oceanic and
• Officers of the Navy, Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard Reserves.
• Officers of the National Guard when they are on active duty. When not on active duty, they rate a salute only when they are in uniform.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Sep 14 at 2020 9:09 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:09:42 -0400

Regulations state they if you recognize any one as an Officer, then you render the salute.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2020 10:24 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 22:24:01 -0400

when in doubt, whip it out

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Sep 15 at 2020 2:41 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 14:41:41 -0400

The answer is yes, regardless of which uniform you're wearing.

U S Navy
CHAPTER 9
CUSTOMS AND COURTESIES
WHOM TO SALUTE.—Enlisted personnel salute all officers, and officers salute their seniors. Salutes are returned by persons saluted except when they are uncovered—the person saluted should acknowledge the salute with an appropriate greeting or a nod of the head.
Salutes are rendered to all of the following officers:
• Navy.
• Army.
• Air Force.
Aboard Ship
When boarding a ship that is flying the national ensign, all persons in the naval service must do the following:
1. Stop on reaching the upper platform on the accommodation ladder or the shipboard end of the brow,
2. Face the ensign,
3. Salute, and
4. Then salute the officer of the deck (OOD).
On leaving the ship, personnel render the salutes in reverse order—first to the OOD and then to the national ensign. These salutes also are rendered aboard foreign men-of-war.
You are required to salute all flag officers (officers above the grade of captain), the commanding officer, and visiting officers (senior to the commanding officer) on every occasion of meeting, passing near, or being addressed. On your first daily meeting, you salute all senior officers attached to your ship or station. Many ships consider salutes rendered at quarters sufficient for this first salute of the day. When the progress of a senior officer may be blocked, officers and enlisted personnel clear a path by calling out “Gangway” and stand at attention facing the senior officer until he/she passes.
In Boats
When a boat is not under way, the person in charge salutes officers that come alongside or pass nearby. If there is no one in charge, all those in the boat render the salute. Boat coxswains salute all officers entering or leaving their boats. (Although it is customary to stand when saluting, if the safety of the boat is endangered by standing, remain seated.) When boat awnings are spread, enlisted personnel sit at attention while saluting; they should not rise. Officers seated in boats rise when rendering salutes to seniors who are entering or leaving.
When boats pass each other with embarked officers or officials in view, hand salutes are rendered by the senior officer and coxswain in each boat. Coxswains rise to salute unless it is dangerous or impracticable to do so.
• Marine Corps.
• Coast Guard.
• National Administration.
Atmospheric
• Public Health Service.
• Foreign military services.
Oceanic and
• Officers of the Navy, Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard Reserves.
• Officers of the National Guard when they are on active duty. When not on active duty, they rate a salute only when they are in uniform.