Army considers Marine Corps camo for new uniforms.

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:03:40 -0500

I think that's a great idea, what do you think?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2014 7:05 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:05:33 -0500

Whichever way we go - let's just stick with it!! The idea of a DoD wide uniform (Army, Marines, Air Force, Navy) is also being tossed around.

Response by SSgt Gregory Guina made Feb 27 at 2014 7:44 PM

SSgt Gregory Guina — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:44:01 -0500

Will be all DOD in same uniform my vote is MarPat

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2014 7:51 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:51:34 -0500

While serving on an ETT in Afghanistan in 08 I was on a joint team and our Marine counterparts were much better suited for the terrain while we were there. The Marine print is a lot more effective for all terrains that we work in either desert print or woodland. I would vote for (if allowed to) it in a heartbeat.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2014 8:06 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 20:06:14 -0500

I have thought for years that we should have a common uniform with just name tapes to identify our service. The Marines developed a good uniform that has stood the test of time as compared to our ACU and it comes in two colors. I think the services would save a ton of money by going to one uniform, maybe we still keep a separate cover. Last time I checked we all fought for the same team.

Besides how great would it be if we could go into any clothing and sales store and get the items we need vs limited selection on sister service installations.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2014 8:35 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Feb 2014 20:35:46 -0500

We just had a Mandatory Town Hall meeting here at Fort Jackson not even 10 days ago and the advisor to the chairman of the joint chief of staff Marine Corps CSM Bryan Battaglia was there talking to us about the upcoming changes to the military.

Well he was asked this question specifically and he said that there is not going to be any changes to uniform that he sees not for awhile. The main conversation talked about Army 2020 and how the force is changing... so if I were you I would just plan on staying in ACUS for awhile.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2014 7:56 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:56:21 -0500

hehehe!

Response by 1SG Shane Hansen made Feb 28 at 2014 8:33 PM

1SG Shane Hansen — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 20:33:09 -0500

I do not mind the MarPat, however, I prefer the OCP "multicam" pattern.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2014 1:51 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:51:13 -0500

This needed to happen when they changed over from BDU's. From a budget and logistics standpoint every service having it's own pattern was and is absurd. I know service pride comes into play but when you deploy they for put you in OCP

anyway and that just the tip because then you need all the other equipment you issued in that pattern also. Two set of TA 50 you have to maintain and account for.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2014 10:22 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 22:22:16 -0500

75% of the Army already has multicams and if you turned yours back in they are still somewhere. Why would we spend millions of dollars on the Marine pattern when multicams work just fine?

Straight lines and rectangles are bad news in camo, and the MARPAT has the same digital straight lines and rectangles as the ACUs just in a different color.

Multicam is the way to go.

Response by Sgt Anthony White made Mar 6 at 2014 3:08 PM

Sgt Anthony White — Thu, 06 Mar 2014 15:08:21 -0500

Having been in both the Marine Corp and Army I ca honestly say I am not surprised that the Army wants to adopt the Marines uniform. When I joined the corp they were still in BDUs, and then I went through the uniform transition, and only had the boots for about 6 months before I actually got the digital uniform. When I joined the Army they already had the ACU, and the minute I put it on I thought this is one huge piece of you know what. It did not feel durable, and it had that awesome tactical velcro that lasted 3 months if you were lucky. Not to mention the wash and wear motto when you looked like a wrinkle bomb went off in your face. I always ironed and starched my ACU and was always asked, "YOu were in the MArines wernt you?"

Response by SSG Zachery Mitchell made Mar 17 at 2014 2:57 AM

SSG Zachery Mitchell — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:57:11 -0400

I like the MARPAT much better than the ACU's and multi cam. However, I don't really care what uniform they give us. I just hope that we get a uniform that looks more professional than what we have, has a better life expectancy/quality, less Velcro and the same standard across all DOD. It gets old buying a new uniform ever 4 - 6 months. If I'm lucky I can get mine to last the full six months they are expected to last.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 10:14 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:14:46 -0400

I have no problems with this if they let the Soldiers role their sleeves up like Marines.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2014 10:27 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:27:19 -0400

How come there are no Navy on here defending their silly water camo? LOL

Whenever the ACUs start to annoy me, I look up a picture of a Navy formation and I feel better. :)

At least until the next football game. <sigh>

Response by SFC Cornelius Walsh made May 9 at 2014 9:58 AM

SFC Cornelius Walsh — Fri, 09 May 2014 09:58:05 -0400

It's almost a good idea - but it won't be the same. Don't forget that within the Marine Corps MARPAT camo, there are EGAs (Eagle, Globe and Anchor) scattered around, meaning that an entirely new pattern will need to be manufactured.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made May 10 at 2014 12:12 PM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Sat, 10 May 2014 12:12:27 -0400

I will approve but only if we can roll our sleeves up.

Response by Cpl George Goodwin made May 10 at 2014 9:31 PM

Cpl George Goodwin — Sat, 10 May 2014 21:31:48 -0400

I think the Army finally found a winner with the multicam. They should have just switched to the Marine Corps digital in the beginning though and saved tons of money. Navy has to get rid of that stupid blue camo uniform too

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2014 10:58 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 11 May 2014 10:58:29 -0400

If you ask anyone who has deployed recently, they all say that they like the multi-cam better than ACUs. Plus the Army has already said that they want to make the multi-cam uniform the garrison uniform. I for one would welcome the change because I feel that the multi-cam works better for training purposes. You actually blend in with the field opposed to ACUs. The real that should be asked right now, is when will the Army pay the money and make the switch to multi-cam.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2014 11:52 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 23:52:26 -0400

When we were discussing new uniforms my MSG asked me what the reason behind a uniform was. I answered uniformity. He explained to me that the purpose of the military's uniforms was camouflage (duh me!). Anyway, he went on to explain that if we found one that worked for one branch why wouldn't we all wear it. So, in short, I believe it is a great idea to use the Marine camo since it is already working for them.

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2014 8:12 PM

Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:12:29 -0400

We performed a training exercise at my most recent drill weekend. I was on the OPFOR Team. You'd be amazed at how fast I (and the rest of the OPFOR Team) got spotted, because we didn't blend in at all.

ACUs are great--for blending into old couches. I've not yet done a tour overseas, but I can only hope that I put on something that's actually effective at keeping me concealed when my life is on the line.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Jun 30 at 2014 11:53 AM

1SG Michael Blount — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:53:16 -0400

Aout time! this should have happened a long time ago

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2014 11:27 AM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:27:02 -0400

Riddle me this though, if the rest of the DOD were to adopt MARPAT, what about the finer points of the uniform? I'm my opinion there would need to be a uniform method for displaying rank. Would the Air Force and the Army be asked to change to an eight-point cover? Do all the breast pockets now become slanted. When Navy Corpsmen, Doctors, Chaplains etc. wear our uniform, they wear it to our uniform regulations. They use pin-on insignia and badges, rather than the sew on patches they are used to. I think that if MARPAT is to be extended to the other branches, then they should follow suit, to include sleeve rolling regulations, with the only exception being to replace our Eagle, Globe and Anchor with respective branch insignia.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2015 8:56 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:56:10 -0500

The marines camp is way better than ours multi-cam. I'd go with that in a heartbeat

Response by Cpl Robert Draper made Feb 25 at 2015 12:13 PM

Cpl Robert Draper — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 12:13:55 -0500

Imagine how much money we could save the Tax Paying Citizen if all of the egocentric brass got off of their high-horses and used logic and reason for once.

Response by 1LT A. Uribe made May 18 at 2015 12:11 AM

1LT A. Uribe — Mon, 18 May 2015 00:11:40 -0400

SFC Private RallyPoint Member I really hope we solve this uniform issue, not sure why, but the marines certainly do an excellent job in picking the right uniform. Would be nice to go back to old school way in that everyone had the same type of combat uniform.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Feb 18 at 2016 8:53 PM

1SG Michael Blount — Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:53:03 -0500

Originally, I believe USMC had a copyright on that design, and that's what led the other services to make their own versions. Assuming that is no longer an issue, I believe the USMC uniforms would be an excellent one for use across the board.

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Feb 19 at 2016 8:06 AM

Capt Jeff S. — Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:06:16 -0500

Go for it! Imitiation is the highest form of flattery!

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Feb 19 at 2016 1:04 PM

Cpl Mark McMiller — Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:04:43 -0500

I doubt that will happen. MARPAT is a trademark of the Marine Corps and the pattern includes tiny eagle, globe, and anchors. That trademark is why you don't see any unofficially licensed MARPAT products on the market.

Response by Sgt Eugene Keyser made Feb 23 at 2016 3:10 PM

Sgt Eugene Keyser — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:10:54 -0500

If it is changed to a multi branch uniform, then the strict regs we Marines have for our uniforms must also be followed. That means that NO cammies are to be worn outside of the base except while traveling in your car. No more allowing Navy, Army, or Air Force to walk through civilian businesses in Cammy Uniform. Marines are not allowed. This is just another reason why we have a higher professionalism. Taking pride in our appearance in public. All uniform regs for the MARPAT uniform if accepted as a whole DOD change must also be in place for the other respective branches. But, in my opinion, we need our separate identities as military branches and the different cammies that are worn today give us that. Thats why they were changed from the Woodland BDU to what they are now for each branch.

Response by SSgt Naoki Hisey made Jun 23 at 2022 10:56 AM

SSgt Naoki Hisey — Thu, 23 Jun 2022 10:56:47 -0400

We are reinventing the wheel- we went from the same camouflage uniform- then we all wanted to be special. This is why Marines can never have nice things- lowest budget - most envied service.