Army assigned me to a unit with no MTOE skill level position for me

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 02:03:49 -0500

I PCS to Fort Hood a few weeks ago, last week my ERB showed "Incoming Personnel" with 12T3O (I am SSG), today ERB shows "Tech Engr SGT" with 12T2O. I verified with S-1 and there is no MTOE position for my level with in the battalion.

I am sure that staying in a lower skill level job results negative for my career. Should I start visiting other units looking for a job?

I have an impressive record (everyone may say that but for real, I do) supported with great NCOERs, leadership and technical experience, education, max APFT and all the desirable trainings that any unit needs (EO, SHARP, UMO, USR).

Please point me in the right direction. Thanks.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2014 1:08 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:08:15 -0500

We are 363% overstrength. Im not sure how does it look based on rank, but that is the overall strength for the entire MOS. The highest of all engineer mos. Ask branch to look into your situation. You should have come to Korea. This would have been the perfect job.

Response by SFC Derek McCoy made Nov 14 at 2014 2:40 PM

SFC Derek McCoy — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:40:00 -0500

Unless you have a S&D Detachment in your BN and the 1 SSG position that now exist is not filled you will not find a 12T3O position in MTOE units. The positions went from 48 to 8 Army wide. The direction you should be headed is asking every Senior Leader in the Engineer Regiment how they made such a bone headed mistake and how they are going to fix it. If you only care about your progression and not the MOS then just reclass and get out of the way for those that are passionate about our job.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2014 6:24 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:24:58 -0500

I been playing with the FMS web and checking at the MTOEs of the local units and SFC McCoy is correct, the 12T3O positions are gone.

I take pride in my profession, reclassing is not an option in my book.

Tough moment for the MOS. Survival of the fittest.

Response by SSG Leonard J W. made Nov 15 at 2014 12:18 PM

SSG Leonard J W. — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 12:18:44 -0500

12Ts are grossly overstrength. According to the FY15 goals, none of us are in a good position. Skill levels 3 and 4 are prime candidates for QMP and QSP. FMSweb is a helpful tool, but it's not much good if there are no slots anywhere. I know you are committed to the MOS, as am I, but you may want to consider the 120. All of your project management and other MOS experience and skills would still be relevant in that new job. Just my 2 cents...

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2014 3:37 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:37:13 -0500

Start looking at working outside our MOS to stay competive. Unfortunately the Army knew about this change at least two years ago from what I heard while in SLC. Work on civilian ed and also look into certs on the COOL website for our MOS. I am literally doing all I can to stay relevant and also stay somewhat in our MOS so I can go Warrant. Good Luck!

Response by SSG Christopher Freeman made Nov 17 at 2014 11:39 AM

SSG Christopher Freeman — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:39:33 -0500

Working one down will not necessarily hurt your career. You are a staff in an e5 slot, no big deal. It's what you do during that time that matters. Two up, one down. I have been in a 5 slot for going on 7 months, but I perform duties and functions that are expected of a SSG.

Response by CDR Zeno Rausa made Dec 17 at 2014 5:02 PM

CDR Zeno Rausa — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:02:36 -0500

I have knowledge of position in Fort Worth, TX for a tacair pilot (Navy). This is a 1099 spot with potential to be picked up for NGC as a W2. $50 an hour. Please drop me a note if interested.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2020 10:18 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:18:45 -0500

Everyone saying no it won’t has seemed to forgotten about the new promotion system. As a SSG, you will not be qualified for 7 if you are filling a 5 slot. Your NCOER will reflect this and the board won’t consider you for 7 because of the merit based promotion system.