Aren't Secretary Clinton and Mr Trump the best reasons to vote Third Party this year? If so, why aren't you?

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:07:07 -0400

Metaphorically speaking, Trump is the crazy hot girl/boy friend most of us had at one time. In my case she was crazy hot but also bat sh** crazy. So there came a time when I had to pop smoke.

Clinton is the crazy hot girl/boy friend who just lied and cheated on you who you hoped you could change but never could so you had to pop smoke.
If you're tired of status quo why not vote 3rd Party?

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 11:14 AM

ENS Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:14:04 -0400

Gary Johnson seems like the only rational and reasonable choice. Clinton is a pathological liar and a proven criminal... Trump is a narcissist and a complete wild card. The entire election is a slap in the face of America.. What a joke..

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 11:15 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:15:51 -0400

To continue to use your analogy,
Gary Johnson is the girl who sounds good but gets stoned every weekend - or every night.
Jill Stein is the girl who is exciting until you find out that she is a Marxist, and didn't just buy the Che Gueverra t-shirt at Hot Topic. She's the real deal.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 11:16 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:16:31 -0400

The only wasted vote is a vote cast for a candidate you don't actually support.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Aug 4 at 2016 11:24 AM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:24:01 -0400

I just do not see a viable 3rd party candidate that I can agree with. Johnson is too conservative and Stein is too liberal.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 11:24 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:24:09 -0400

I would like anyone considering voting 3rd party to look up Chris Keniston. Veteran's party of America.
http://chriskeniston2016.com/

Chris Keniston 2016 – A New Voice, A New Choice, For All Americans

Chris Keniston is a family man, a patriot, a veteran but more importantly he is an American that will work for the people. Get to know Chris and some of his history through his Bio. Chris will also be holding town-hall meeting.

Response by SSgt Ryan Sylvester made Aug 4 at 2016 11:25 AM

SSgt Ryan Sylvester — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:25:17 -0400

I was going to vote third party anyway. I might have voted Republican if they had stayed moderate, but ever since the Fake Tea Party took over and radicalized the GOP even worse than before, I can't stomach the thought of throwing another vote to them. The Libertarian Party is more closely aligned with my views now. Do I agree with everything Johnson stands for? No. But I believe he's the best shot to turn things around in the big chair. Especially if we could start filling more I's in Congressional seats. He's certainly far more qualified than either of the circus clowns.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Aug 4 at 2016 11:25 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:25:28 -0400

Of all the candidates, Trump (the winner of about 14,000,000 voters) is the most acceptable. His major flaw is his penchant for grabbing the bait offered on every left wing hook. Other than his occasional hyperbolic statement, his issues are the same as most thinking Americans. When I review what is considered a platform of the third parties, I see populism to the max, sometimes referred to as pandering. Even at that, I have more in common with them than the left platform.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Aug 4 at 2016 11:25 AM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:25:34 -0400

I am not sold on a feckless Lawyer/Politician nor the product of some ghostwriter's imagination/real estate mogul but I will vote for the one I believe to be less troublesome; I still believe a Veteran would be more balanced and be positive for this country. Remember, General George Washington became President George Washington.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Aug 4 at 2016 11:40 AM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:40:17 -0400

I'm sorry, but I just had to say that reading "Trump is the crazy hot girl", I just lost it and died laughing. The only thing I have to say about the 3rd party is that they don't get nearly enough press. I have nothing against 3rd party candidates except that they typically don't surface until pretty late in the election cycle so it's hard to get a good feel for them.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 11:42 AM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:42:57 -0400

I'm seriously thinking about it, seems like Gary Johnson is a true contender at this point but given your analogy, what if he turns out to be the "devil you didn't know"?

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Aug 4 at 2016 11:49 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:49:01 -0400

I'm still conflicted. Not about Hillary. Never vote for the criminal. Trump, maybe. Every time he's accused of something in the media I just wait and it proves false. Still, he needs a filter between the brain and the mouth. Johnson, maybe. Seems reasonable but also their are weird things to contend with. Most importantly, it doesn't matter how I vote. I live in California and it's already a foregone conclusion where our electoral college votes will be cast.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Aug 4 at 2016 11:51 AM

PO1 John Miller — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:51:44 -0400

I almost always vote Libertarian.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 11:52 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:52:07 -0400

MSG Private RallyPoint Member Indeed they are, but I hear that Mickey mouse will not accept even if elected. There is no good choice in this election.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Aug 4 at 2016 12:01 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:01:40 -0400

Those promoting Johnson should read his platform and speeches and be sure that is what you really want. Of course he has no more chance of getting elected than I do but do you really want wide open borders, legal drugs, all military brought back to the US, huge military budget and manpower cuts, higher taxes etc. Otherwise his beliefs pretty closely mirror Bernie. Even Johnson has said that he agrees with Bernie 75% of the time. Can't seem to make up his mind about guns since he has gone both ways on that.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 12:03 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:03:51 -0400

I will vote for Clinton because Trump must be stopped and Gary Johnson would appoint religious conservative justices which I cannot support.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Aug 4 at 2016 12:20 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:20:06 -0400

A vote for a third party showing little support is a wasted vote. The choice before us is poor, but it is important to limit damage to the country by voting for the lesser of the two evils.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 12:26 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:26:22 -0400

I was/am a Bernie supporter. so, I cant very much vote for the DNC candidate that cheated her way in. Nor can I vote for the terrible choice the RNC has made, and man was this their year to pick a winner. so I am forced to vote third party in order to be ok with myself on Nov 9th, when the declare ether one of them the winner. so Jill Stein it is.

Response by SrA Alan Sherman made Aug 4 at 2016 12:56 PM

SrA Alan Sherman — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:56:15 -0400

This is a binary decision, simply put whether we like it or not. You may look at it as a vote against the worst rather than a vote for the lesser of two evils.
Mathematically speaking, any other vote for a third party or write in candidate is equivelant to throwing away your vote and giving the other side a half vote. It serves no purpose except to allow you to say "well I didn't vote for him/her"
It allows you to appear to have morally met all the requirements that assuage your guilt and ease your conscience. But it's a lie based in denial.
The truth of it is no matter how you characterize it you are voting for one candidate or the other even if you vote "other other" or abstain.

Response by SGT James Murphy made Aug 4 at 2016 1:00 PM

SGT James Murphy — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:00:52 -0400

Seriously No One hates the existing system of Democrat/Republican Parties that are totally controlled by "K" Street and Lobbyist MONEY however, we need to be real here... the third parties may have a chance of getting into an office locally in a particular county or even maybe a state but not Nationally. The numbers just are NOT there! Therefore you would be throwing away a vote or in the case of the current presidential campaign, your vote for no one would be sure to get Hillary Elected.....! Not a Good Outcome!

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 1:55 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:55:40 -0400

Voting for third party means voting for Donald Trump ans I could never do that. As much as I would prefer to have another Democratic Party candidate this out of the question now. This is a binary decision. I will go with Hillary Clinton every time over Donald Trump.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Aug 4 at 2016 1:59 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:59:57 -0400

I"m voting for Donald Trump because I'm DEEPLY concerned about the type of person Hillary Clinton would appoint to the Supreme Court, if given a chance.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Aug 4 at 2016 2:05 PM

Capt Walter Miller — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:05:52 -0400

I will vote 3rd Party.

Response by MAJ Michael Sjostrom made Aug 4 at 2016 2:14 PM

MAJ Michael Sjostrom — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:14:00 -0400

I cannot support either of the two primary candidates for exactly the reasons you pointed out - one is a career criminal and the other is a narcissistic, egomaniac with absolutely no experience governing (look what the last 8 years of a community organizer has brought us) who seems to be incapable of holding a steady line.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 2:26 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:26:58 -0400

All it takes for evil to triumph is for enough good people to haul off and do nothing!

Each and every vote does count. If you feel that you are throwing away your vote by voting a 3rd party, don't! It is *our* responsibility to fix this great nation of ours. Get involved in the Convention of States, vote for the candidate that most closely supports your values *AND* our country's values/principles.

Imagine this November if we all voted according to principles (not the least of 2 evils). Yes, HRC or DT will probably end up in office, but a clear message will be sent to all political parties that their time is drawing to a close. If the Dems or Reps win *AND* we vote correctly, they will know that their support base has shrunk to an all time low.

The correct answer for me is "I already vote third party when the person aligns more closely than any other person in the running."

Response by SFC J Fullerton made Aug 4 at 2016 2:31 PM

SFC J Fullerton — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:31:44 -0400

Clinton and the words 'hot girl' do not belong in the same sentance

Response by PO2 Peter Klein made Aug 4 at 2016 2:40 PM

PO2 Peter Klein — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:40:48 -0400

Why waste your vote for somebody who doe not have a chance?

Response by Capt Michael Greene made Aug 4 at 2016 2:48 PM

Capt Michael Greene — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:48:32 -0400

A vote for Third Party is effectively a vote for the insane man. The two party system, like the electoral college, must be reworked. Citizen's United definitely has got to go.

Response by LCpl Cody Collins made Aug 4 at 2016 2:51 PM

LCpl Cody Collins — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:51:37 -0400

Why does everyone keep calling Hillary Clinton ( secretary) she isn't in office anymore.

Response by SGM Barry Kindred made Aug 4 at 2016 3:31 PM

SGM Barry Kindred — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 15:31:06 -0400

Hahaha Fullerton nice!!
Haha!

Response by SGT William Howell made Aug 4 at 2016 4:40 PM

SGT William Howell — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 16:40:54 -0400

Because the last time I voted 3rd party I got a fucking Clinton as President! Still trying to recover from NAFTA. No thank you. I'll vote for the least sucky choice! Trump!

Response by SFC Steve Renner made Aug 4 at 2016 4:42 PM

SFC Steve Renner — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 16:42:32 -0400

the whole 2 party system is broken......it is no longer about policies, or the people, its about money.....money influences it all....why would any millionaire want a job that pays 400K a year?....and how can any millionaire have any idea how the average american lives day to day?

Response by SGT William Howell made Aug 4 at 2016 4:45 PM

SGT William Howell — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 16:45:20 -0400

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE Vermin Supreme or Trump. Still up in the air!

Vermin Supreme: When I'm President Everyone Gets A Free Pony

Vermin Supreme At the Lesser-Known Democratic Candidates Presidential Forum. Forget The Phony, Vote For The Pony: http://bit.ly/zlqK3a The full debate is ava...

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 5:24 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 17:24:12 -0400

That is the best description of the politicians I have ever read. Both represent the outcome of dysfunctional relationships.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 7:11 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 19:11:01 -0400

Because third party won't win and I'm more concerned about the Supreme Court than the avtual president.

Response by Col Rebecca Lorraine made Aug 4 at 2016 8:35 PM

Col Rebecca Lorraine — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 20:35:10 -0400

It doesn't matter what I do in South Carolina.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Aug 5 at 2016 7:21 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 07:21:12 -0400

There is a high possibility on my voting third party.

Response by Maj Walter Kilar made Aug 5 at 2016 8:47 AM

Maj Walter Kilar — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 08:47:29 -0400

America will never escape the de facto two party system that the Founding Fathers did not want unless we vote for the candidate we deem best qualified rather than rationalizing our way into only voting red or blue. This election is not about choosing the lesser of two evils like the last election. This time, both red and blue are equally wrong choices in my book, so I will definitely vote third party.

Response by SSgt Paul Esquibel made Aug 6 at 2016 10:28 AM

SSgt Paul Esquibel — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 10:28:37 -0400

I would be open to voting 3rd Party but unfortunately allot of Libertarians with the exception of Rand Paul are just not conservative enough for me to trust them.

Response by SSG Stephan Pendarvis made Aug 6 at 2016 12:49 PM

SSG Stephan Pendarvis — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 12:49:16 -0400

hmmmmm.....what is 3rd party?

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2016 1:13 AM

ENS Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 01:13:27 -0400

Absolutely. However, the idea of HRC winning the Presidential nomination makes my skin crawl. In my 24 years, I've never believed such an absurd scenario would come to existence. Fact truly can be stranger than fiction.

Response by SGT James Murphy made Aug 12 at 2016 12:45 PM

SGT James Murphy — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:45:20 -0400

A 3rd Party Vote is a Vote For Hillary!

Response by PO2 Joseph Fast made Aug 23 at 2016 1:00 PM

PO2 Joseph Fast — Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:00:53 -0400

I am a liberal/libertarian. I know labels aren't the best way to say your beliefs, but I am a centrist who can look at all issues and see the black and white issues and accept what is best. On the grey areas where both sides are technically not wrong, I tend to side with liberal ideology. The military opened my eyes to threats and growing up poor opened my eyes to other threats. Although I align with with Gary Johnson on more things than I do Trump or Hillary, I am not accepting of the libertarian parties stance on immigration. Immigration is number 1 on my list and I wish it wasn't. I want to vote libertarian but they stand in opposition to what I honestly believe is best for our country at the moment. We have too many poor people to allow immigrants access to our country to take welfare benefits and jobs. I've seen Germany, Sweden, and England. I don't want that here and I think both the democrats and libertarian party stand in opposition to keeping the wrong UNSKILLED POOR and or terrorists out of our country. I understand this is a grey area and probably the only grey area I am conservative on, but it's the most important to me.