Are you barred from promotion to SPC if you have a JA PT flag?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 11:59:33 -0400

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2017 12:10 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:10:19 -0400

Yes. When you were read your counseling informing you of a flagging action being placed on your records you were or should have been told that no favorable actions could take place while you are flagged. This includes if you are aSPC promotable you will be reboarded.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jul 29 at 2017 12:23 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:23:33 -0400

AR 600-8-2. J is for weight control and A is for adverse action? If you are flagged, that spends ALL favorable action. Promotion is favorable action. Review chapter 3.

The flag is there until it is lifted by completion of punishment for the A and successful completion of ABCP standards for the J.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2017 8:38 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jul 2017 20:38:46 -0400

Do people no longer read their counseling forms anymore? Do people NOT go to their NCOs anymore? Or, is this a case of "I was told one thing, but I didn't like what I heard so I decided to go onto social media and search for an answer that better suits my way of thinking and feeling?"

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2017 2:36 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Jul 2017 02:36:26 -0400

Yes. Suspension of favorable actions. Good news for you is between putting away the twinkies and hitting the gym, you can research the AR and prepare yourself for the board... once you make it there

Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made Jul 30 at 2017 9:30 AM

SSG Robert Perrotto — Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:30:56 -0400

the answer is yes, you lose your "P" status, you busted tape, and the flag is active. that is what the "J" and the "A" signify. When you failed the tape test. you should have been counseled regarding the overweight program, the flag, and repercussions of the flag.

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made Jul 30 at 2017 11:27 AM

SGM Matthew Quick — Sun, 30 Jul 2017 11:27:51 -0400

Absolutely--if you cannot meet a standard (in this case passing the APFT), you do not advance to a higher rank; but I'm sure you were counseled on this like MSG Private RallyPoint Member mentioned.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2017 5:22 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:22:41 -0400

You can not be promoted if you are flagged. You can however be demoted.