Are you aware of the true nature of our Government's agenda?

2015-01-09T23:50:00-05:00

Few Americans are aware of the orchestrated nature of our Governments agenda. Clinton, Bush and Obama are following state dept 7277 signed by Kennedy in 1961. " Freedom from War" Better known as part of the NWO, In which we down size our military in 3 stages, confiscate privately owned weapons and give up our constitution to the U.N The last U.N anti gun vote was voted on by the U.S and all 43 votes to give up our 2nd amendment were from democrats. Our founding fathers told us " If you give up the tools to ensure liberty, you are truly ruined! "

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Jan 10 at 2015 12:04 AM

2015-01-10T00:04:22-05:00

SrA Greg Hardin, from Benjamin Franklin, “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Response by LTC David S. Chang, ChFC®, CLU® made Jan 10 at 2015 12:11 AM

2015-01-10T00:11:10-05:00

Well, I hope that we are able to see after these attacks in Paris, the UN can't stop people from attacking us! While I understand the fear that guns can be dangerous to society, there are many that are law abiding citizens that shouldn't be penalized.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2015 12:38 AM

2015-01-10T00:38:35-05:00

I'm pretty sure there's a video about this from Ranger Up . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjAl_kbAxmc

Ranger Up Presents: The Damn Few Episode 12: Gun Control

http://rangerup.com presents The Damn Few Episode 12: Gun Control. Our first feature length episode! The song "Gunslinger" is used with written permission by...

Response by SSgt Tim Jackson made Jan 12 at 2015 4:03 PM

2015-01-12T16:03:45-05:00

Good luck trying to take my weapons. Molon Labe

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2015 4:35 PM

2015-01-12T16:35:53-05:00

You got a copy of this doc?

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2015 7:00 PM

2015-01-12T19:00:20-05:00

I disagree that there's a "plot" in the works, from JFK through all the presidents in the intervening years to take guns away from the American people and "give up our constitution to the U.N." Sure, I agree that gun restrictions have been introduced, but this sounds to me like a conspiracy theory run amok.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jan 12 at 2015 7:02 PM

2015-01-12T19:02:33-05:00

That sounds right to put us into a police/ military state controlled by the government.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2015 8:05 PM

2015-01-12T20:05:25-05:00

By the noise coming out of the beltway with regards to law, which law are they referring, the US Constitution or the OAS Carta Democratica?

http://www.oas.org/OASpage/esp/Publicaciones/CartaDemocratica_spa.pdf

Page 331 - 332, United States, Roger F. Noriega, Ambassador and Permanent Representative of the United States to the Organization for the American States

The Democratic Charter

Adopted by the inter-American community on September 11 — in the immediate wake of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon — the hemispheric consensus represented that day was a significant, historic event in its own right...

Let’s remember that the Charter is only seven months old. Documents intended to be CORNERSTONES OF PUBLIC POLICY, like laws or even the U.S. Constitution, are not born with instant legitimacy. A document’s LEGITIMACY EVOLVES SLOWLY, over time AS IT IS EXERCISED, and as respect for it and the values it embodies grows. Only through numerous attempted, not always successful, applications of a document can it achieve its full or even intended potential. Through fits and starts and repeated attempts, the values embodied in a significant public policy document, such as the Democratic Charter, eventually come to life and become tangible and immutable.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2015 11:14 PM

2015-01-12T23:14:19-05:00

I never knew that a state department 'tome' would become de facto Federal law. Good to know that the congressional oversight and judicial review were circumvented. Does that mean everything I said in the oath of enlistment was bunk? Hmmmmm.

Response by SP5 Michael Rathbun made Jan 12 at 2015 11:46 PM

2015-01-12T23:46:23-05:00

Negative vote for pegging the needle in the category "Lacks Verisimilitude."

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2015 9:45 AM

2015-01-14T09:45:44-05:00

The document is genuine, but should be taken in context. The U.S. and the Soviet Union were looking for a formal approach to disarmament talks. They finally agreed that the U.N. could be helpful in this respect. The state department wrote this U.N. proposal which was introduced to the U.N. Quite, obviously,as the negotiations progressed, neither side decided that this particular plan was going to meet their needs, so both sides backed away from it. Fortunately, however, the discussions from this U.N. proposal paved the way for nuclear weapon treaties in the next 20 years. The document does not (as some claim) carry the weight of law and was not a goal of any administration in the past 25 years. Nowhere does the document refer to privately owned arms.

Everyone should read it for themselves: http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2015 8:15 PM

2015-01-14T20:15:18-05:00

Umm...
It is true there was an ill-advised UN treaty attempt to ban small arms sales. Leaving all weapons in the hands of governments and criminals. Great idea. So it got voted down.

Presidents all along the line could have espoused this view, but none but the very fringe of candidates has. The reason the second amendment exists is so that the citizen can protect himself from the tyranny of the GOVERNMENT. If someone truly believes that the second amendment must go, there is a process for that. Open debate. 2/3 vote by both houses of Congress. Ratification by 3/4 of state legislatures. Go ahead and try. Let's have this debate. I wager that even the most fringe congressman wouldn't dare introduce this bill, and if they did, it would not get far.

Let's find out.

Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Mar 15 at 2015 10:30 AM

2015-03-15T10:30:03-04:00

As Colonel Sherman T. Potter would say, "Horsehockey!" Even if this was a legitimate thing trying to be implemented there is no way in Hell the American people are going to give up their arms just for the U.N. to take them and enforce their laws upon our country. No way, no how.