Are car gun safes important?

Cpl Tom Surdi — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:44:25 -0400

There is another post going around about 53 companies who do not allow guns to be carried in their stores and that you should boycott them. A question was raised about someone needing to run to 17 different stores to run errands and that one of those stores doesn't allow guns. So what is a responsible gun owner supposed to do, just go back later and waste gas without your weapons?

No!

Keep your gun in your car, and go into the store.

In my opinion any responsible gun owner will always have a way to safely and securely store their weapon when not in use. In the home it's easy, you just buy a big ole gun safe for storage.

But what about your car?

There are many different car gun safes that are designed just for your car. The problem is that most of them are too small for larger weapons like rifles. Oh sure they are out there, but they are expensive. But if you tote around your rifles and shotguns a lot, they are worth it.

First, here is a link to the smaller car gun safes.
http://cavearmor.com/best-car-gun-safe-for-vehicles-reviews/
All of these are perfectly capable of storing your weapon in your car, and are in most cases easily installed by the DIYer.

I own and drive a 2000 Ford F150 Super Cab, and I have two gun safes installed. One is in the center compartment of the middle console and I straight up bought it, it's for my .22 pistol I conceal carry and cannot tote it into whatever building I am going into, it will also fit my larger caliber pistols if I ever chose to conceal carry them. The other is beneath the backseat, and I built it myself out of 3/4" rolled steel that took a plasma torch to cut and is secured by two different locking mechanisms that would take hours to pick. I then had it inspected by the local police to see if it met their criteria. Both are secured to the frame of the truck by bolts that I welded to the frame so they cannot be simply unbolted and taken out without first opening each safe. To break into it any other way while parked in public would draw way too much scrutiny.

Being a gun owner to me is about more than how many you own or how much you know about them. It's about using them responsibly and keeping them out of the hands of people who would do harm to others with your weapons.

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Response by CPL Dave Hoover made Apr 30 at 2018 10:49 AM

CPL Dave Hoover — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:49:54 -0400

Cpl Tom Surdi great read and thoughts brother.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Apr 30 at 2018 10:54 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:54:29 -0400

Great share brother.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 10:54 AM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:54:44 -0400

I never thought about it. I mostly stay close to home and haven't yet seen a need for CCA permit. It's a valid point though, especially for those that have a need such as carrying cash and making frequent stops.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 11:01 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:01:07 -0400

The "car" issue is a big one. Yes, you can lock you doors, but it's easy enough for someone to break in. You can install a "car safe" (I have), and that adds some measure of protection...but it's not perfect, as the car, if stolen, still contains the weapon.

Just another example of stricter "gun laws" resulting in increased risk surrounding weapons.

Response by MSgt C Madd made Apr 30 at 2018 11:19 AM

MSgt C Madd — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:19:57 -0400

Cpl Tom Surdi In the state of Florida there are only 15 places that a CC permit holder can not take a firearm. Not one of those is a private business. I would just take my business elsewhere. If you must use such business, it's none of their business if you do.

Response by SSG William Jones made Apr 30 at 2018 11:35 AM

SSG William Jones — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:23 -0400

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Apr 30 at 2018 11:43 AM

1SG Dennis Hicks — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:43:08 -0400

As a law abiding gun owner one must obey the wishes of private property owners, If they don't want to support the 2A then they are entitled to do so. I don't have to spend my money there. I have issues with storing firearms in cars even in safes since anyone knowing you have a safe in your vehicle can either plan to break in when you are away from your car or wait until you are putting the weapon in or after you have put it in to attack you. Safes like locks keep honest people honest, criminals will always find a way to break into locked containers. A long time back I had a gun safe in my trunk that was attached to the frame and one day I decided to see how long it would take me to either break into the safe or just take the whole safe. It didn't take long.
So unless you are driving an armored car your weapon is best suited on your person. Your vehicle can be taken for later removal of a gun safe, people are always watching what others do so removing your weapon and putting it in your vehicle even in a safe has its problems. Even so a safe is better than hiding it under your floor mat, stuck in a seat cushion or in your glove box. I find it easier to use establishments that support the 2A rather than pay lip service to teh constitution and knee jerk reactions after they get an emotionally unstable customer complaint about a gun owner.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Apr 30 at 2018 12:40 PM

Cpl Jeff N. — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:40:35 -0400

I tend to ignore the request not to carry unless it is actually illegal (in the law) to carry into the location (courthouse, police station, secure area of the airport etc). Worst case, if they figure out you have one, they will ask you to leave and you can leave. Worst case is you might get a trespass filed, so what.

Leaving a gun in the car in a parking lot has a set of risks involved with it to.

Response by SPC Casey Ashfield made Apr 30 at 2018 12:53 PM

SPC Casey Ashfield — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:53:54 -0400

Not really. No gun signs do not carry the rule of law in my state. If anything, they can ask me to leave if they discover I have a firearm. Only if I refuse would there be trouble. At work, I have my own wall mounted drop safe for my firearm.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 1:01 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:01:22 -0400

I disagree. Unless you are going into a federal facility that is the only way my firearm is staying in the car. Other than that it's called concealed carry for a reason... If they don't know I have it they can't say anything. I refuse to be a victim, whether I'm in a store at the movie theater I will not cower on the floor when some Nut Job comes through there and start shooting I will be able to defend myself and my family.

Response by Maj John Bell made Apr 30 at 2018 2:29 PM

Maj John Bell — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:29:14 -0400

I also have a gun safe in my truck, and one in my wife's car. However, a no gun policy is an important factor in my choice of which commercial enterprises with which I will do business.

1) I carry a pistol for personal protection, not to be locked up in a safe.
2) Is there any evidence that area "gun-free zone" sign has ever turned back someone intent on criminal acts with a gun? So who are we disarming?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 5:20 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 17:20:44 -0400

Q: Are car gun safes important?
A: Kate Steinle's family might think so.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2018 6:41 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:41:00 -0400

My car door locks.

Response by TSgt David L. made May 1 at 2018 12:07 AM

TSgt David L. — Tue, 01 May 2018 00:07:33 -0400

Most states have LAWS that say where you can't carry. In Montana you cant carry in an establishment that serves alcohol. Stupid law. It used to say if 50% of their business was from alcohol you couldn't carry. That eliminates BWW and other restaurants that ASK you not to carry anyway. So stores (say Target! LOL) that ASK you not to carry can not legally stop you. They can ask you to leave, and you should. Shop where your weapons are welcome.

Response by MIDN 2/C Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2019 10:45 AM

MIDN 2/C Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:45:09 -0500

If you love to have a gun always and do any kind of driving, sooner or later you will need to consider a car gun safe.
Here are some advantages of Car gun safes:
• They are important given most cars’ poor security.
• They should be hidden so they don't draw a thief’s attention.
• They should attach to the superstructure of the car.
• Compared to gun vaults they are lightly built.
• This is acceptable, given they are meant for short-term storage.
• Most are not fireproof, given the rarity of it in Cars.
• Many handgun safes are acceptable car safes.
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