Are AF Pilots guilty of flying 'high-er' than authorized or getting 'wrecking balled' for acting like Miley Cyrus? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-64615"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fare-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Are+AF+Pilots+guilty+of+flying+%27high-er%27+than+authorized+or+getting+%27wrecking+balled%27+for+acting+like+Miley+Cyrus%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fare-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AAre AF Pilots guilty of flying &#39;high-er&#39; than authorized or getting &#39;wrecking balled&#39; for acting like Miley Cyrus?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="743e99c19f900c943f113e06a5d7dec0" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/064/615/for_gallery_v2/d0e1d924.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/064/615/large_v3/d0e1d924.jpg" alt="D0e1d924" /></a></div></div>Officials at the Texas base reportedly concluded the pilots were distributing drugs based only on the text messages, which refer to ecstasy by its street name, Molly, and include the Miley Cyrus lyrics: “We like to party/ Dancing with Molly/ Doing whatever we want.” <br />The pilots purportedly passed drug tests and said the lyrics are about carousing, chasing women and trying to sustain the memory of a lost weekend in Las Vegas. The Air Force has issued a statement confirming the IG inquiry and saying the pilots’ cases will be reviewed based on the findings.<br />“Commanders are expected to hold members accountable for their actions, while ensuring due process and equitable treatment are appropriately applied in every case,” the statement reads in part.<br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/air-force-top-general-orders-probe-on-pilots-purportedly-grounded-for-drug/?intcmp=hpbt4">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/air-force-top-general-orders-probe-on-pilots-purportedly-grounded-for-drug/?intcmp=hpbt4</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/026/036/qrc/Air2_force.jpg?1445303152"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/air-force-top-general-orders-probe-on-pilots-purportedly-grounded-for-drug/?intcmp=hpbt4">Air Force probes punishment for pilots grounded over Miley lyric texts</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The Air Force’s top general is now involved in the case of several pilots grounded after exchanging text messages that alluded to taking the party-drug ecstasy.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:23:46 -0400 Are AF Pilots guilty of flying 'high-er' than authorized or getting 'wrecking balled' for acting like Miley Cyrus? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-64615"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fare-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Are+AF+Pilots+guilty+of+flying+%27high-er%27+than+authorized+or+getting+%27wrecking+balled%27+for+acting+like+Miley+Cyrus%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fare-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AAre AF Pilots guilty of flying &#39;high-er&#39; than authorized or getting &#39;wrecking balled&#39; for acting like Miley Cyrus?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="150e9507a31248e8c2234f19295f462c" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/064/615/for_gallery_v2/d0e1d924.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/064/615/large_v3/d0e1d924.jpg" alt="D0e1d924" /></a></div></div>Officials at the Texas base reportedly concluded the pilots were distributing drugs based only on the text messages, which refer to ecstasy by its street name, Molly, and include the Miley Cyrus lyrics: “We like to party/ Dancing with Molly/ Doing whatever we want.” <br />The pilots purportedly passed drug tests and said the lyrics are about carousing, chasing women and trying to sustain the memory of a lost weekend in Las Vegas. The Air Force has issued a statement confirming the IG inquiry and saying the pilots’ cases will be reviewed based on the findings.<br />“Commanders are expected to hold members accountable for their actions, while ensuring due process and equitable treatment are appropriately applied in every case,” the statement reads in part.<br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/air-force-top-general-orders-probe-on-pilots-purportedly-grounded-for-drug/?intcmp=hpbt4">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/air-force-top-general-orders-probe-on-pilots-purportedly-grounded-for-drug/?intcmp=hpbt4</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/026/036/qrc/Air2_force.jpg?1445303152"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/19/air-force-top-general-orders-probe-on-pilots-purportedly-grounded-for-drug/?intcmp=hpbt4">Air Force probes punishment for pilots grounded over Miley lyric texts</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The Air Force’s top general is now involved in the case of several pilots grounded after exchanging text messages that alluded to taking the party-drug ecstasy.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CPO Andy Carrillo, MS Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:23:46 -0400 2015-10-19T21:23:46-04:00 Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 12:00 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1051910&urlhash=1051910 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is another attempt at this administration to make people not want to go into the Air Force. First the Missileers and now this. <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="699582" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/699582-cpo-andy-carrillo-ms">CPO Andy Carrillo, MS</a> SSgt Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:00:24 -0400 2015-10-20T00:00:24-04:00 Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 12:36 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1051951&urlhash=1051951 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is deeply disturbing to me that fighter pilots flying multimillion dollar aircraft are any kind of fans of Miley Cyrus.*<br /><br />*Sarcasm<br /><br />EDIT<br />Having thought about this a little more, I wonder what business the Air Force has reading their text messages. Sounds to me that having failed in finding proof of their initial investigation, they took something small and made a big deal out of it. 1SG Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 20 Oct 2015 00:36:19 -0400 2015-10-20T00:36:19-04:00 Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Oct 20 at 2015 1:09 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1051976&urlhash=1051976 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would have never made it in the Air Force --well, "today's" Air Force anyway. Cripes, I got exhausted with signing the "I wasn't at Tailhook" forms. Yes, these forms existed in the early 90's. "Enduring due process" = Surviving a General Officers knee-jerk. Capt Mark Strobl Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:09:02 -0400 2015-10-20T01:09:02-04:00 Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Oct 20 at 2015 1:59 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1052039&urlhash=1052039 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think the whole situation is an outstanding example of Air Force logic and priorities. Almost makes me afraid to talk about some of my favorite video games or movies with friends. The AF might think I am some kind of crazy Australian waste land survivor with an addiction to building crazy muscle cars from scavenged scrap that I stole from even crazier waste land survivors.<br /><br />On a side note, I highly recommend the new Mad Max game and movie, they're both great. Just don't let your leadership know you play them or you might be investigated like these pilots who are so obviously involved in drug trade because of their interest in a Miley Cyrus song. SrA Matthew Knight Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:59:25 -0400 2015-10-20T01:59:25-04:00 Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Oct 20 at 2015 3:08 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1052119&urlhash=1052119 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If they passed the drug tests, what is the beef? Capt Seid Waddell Tue, 20 Oct 2015 03:08:52 -0400 2015-10-20T03:08:52-04:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 10:20 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1073281&urlhash=1073281 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sir, by now you should have learned that the military will get rid of or try to get rid of anyone for any kind of perceived misconduct. Hell, if one sneezes in the CS chamber they might face disciplinary actions. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 28 Oct 2015 22:20:52 -0400 2015-10-28T22:20:52-04:00 Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Oct 28 at 2015 10:48 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1073345&urlhash=1073345 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wow... Let me just say that I&#39;m happy to be retired... <br />smdh... MSgt Curtis Ellis Wed, 28 Oct 2015 22:48:32 -0400 2015-10-28T22:48:32-04:00 Response by SMSgt David A Asbury made Oct 28 at 2015 11:59 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1073443&urlhash=1073443 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, Pilots had made a reference about Molly, right away the Air Force is saying you are guilty until proven innocent about using drugs. Sad SMSgt David A Asbury Wed, 28 Oct 2015 23:59:37 -0400 2015-10-28T23:59:37-04:00 Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Oct 29 at 2015 12:11 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1073460&urlhash=1073460 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great example of an over-PC-focused, general officer's knee-jerk... or two. Capt Mark Strobl Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:11:45 -0400 2015-10-29T00:11:45-04:00 Response by Maj Jeff Dodd made Oct 29 at 2015 10:17 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/are-af-pilots-guilty-of-flying-high-er-than-authorized-or-getting-wrecking-balled-for-acting-like-miley-cyrus?n=1074051&urlhash=1074051 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is sad to see, but I have seen varying degrees of this sort of thing since I first enlisted in the early 90's. Initially I thought that the increased scrutiny on service members personal affairs was a by product of being in a PRP position. Once I got rid of the PRP stink, I noticed that nothing had really changed. Supervisors and commanders are given too much authority to delve into a members cell phone and personal email. What's next? Conversations with spouses/girlfriends? Utterings at the bar after having a beer? Good luck getting quality volunteers to support this service in the future.<br /><br />News that texts sent to your friends from your personal cell phone could be used to NJP you and/or kick you out is going to spread quickly. <br /><br />I'm glad that I am retired!!! This painful exercise will only ensure that servicemembers have a plan to "Tom Brady" their phones/computers if they are called into their commanders office. Maj Jeff Dodd Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:17:36 -0400 2015-10-29T10:17:36-04:00 2015-10-19T21:23:46-04:00