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<p class="pta-link-card-description">The Air Force’s top general is now involved in the case of several pilots grounded after exchanging text messages that alluded to taking the party-drug ecstasy.</p>
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Are AF Pilots guilty of flying 'high-er' than authorized or getting 'wrecking balled' for acting like Miley Cyrus?2015-10-19T21:23:46-04:00CPO Andy Carrillo, MS1051654<div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-64615"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image">
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Are AF Pilots guilty of flying 'high-er' than authorized or getting 'wrecking balled' for acting like Miley Cyrus?2015-10-19T21:23:46-04:002015-10-19T21:23:46-04:00SSgt Private RallyPoint Member1051910<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is another attempt at this administration to make people not want to go into the Air Force. First the Missileers and now this. <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="699582" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/699582-cpo-andy-carrillo-ms">CPO Andy Carrillo, MS</a>Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 12:00 AM2015-10-20T00:00:24-04:002015-10-20T00:00:24-04:001SG Private RallyPoint Member1051951<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is deeply disturbing to me that fighter pilots flying multimillion dollar aircraft are any kind of fans of Miley Cyrus.*<br /><br />*Sarcasm<br /><br />EDIT<br />Having thought about this a little more, I wonder what business the Air Force has reading their text messages. Sounds to me that having failed in finding proof of their initial investigation, they took something small and made a big deal out of it.Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 12:36 AM2015-10-20T00:36:19-04:002015-10-20T00:36:19-04:00Capt Mark Strobl1051976<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would have never made it in the Air Force --well, "today's" Air Force anyway. Cripes, I got exhausted with signing the "I wasn't at Tailhook" forms. Yes, these forms existed in the early 90's. "Enduring due process" = Surviving a General Officers knee-jerk.Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Oct 20 at 2015 1:09 AM2015-10-20T01:09:02-04:002015-10-20T01:09:02-04:00SrA Matthew Knight1052039<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think the whole situation is an outstanding example of Air Force logic and priorities. Almost makes me afraid to talk about some of my favorite video games or movies with friends. The AF might think I am some kind of crazy Australian waste land survivor with an addiction to building crazy muscle cars from scavenged scrap that I stole from even crazier waste land survivors.<br /><br />On a side note, I highly recommend the new Mad Max game and movie, they're both great. Just don't let your leadership know you play them or you might be investigated like these pilots who are so obviously involved in drug trade because of their interest in a Miley Cyrus song.Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Oct 20 at 2015 1:59 AM2015-10-20T01:59:25-04:002015-10-20T01:59:25-04:00Capt Seid Waddell1052119<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If they passed the drug tests, what is the beef?Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Oct 20 at 2015 3:08 AM2015-10-20T03:08:52-04:002015-10-20T03:08:52-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member1073281<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sir, by now you should have learned that the military will get rid of or try to get rid of anyone for any kind of perceived misconduct. Hell, if one sneezes in the CS chamber they might face disciplinary actions.Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 10:20 PM2015-10-28T22:20:52-04:002015-10-28T22:20:52-04:00MSgt Curtis Ellis1073345<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wow... Let me just say that I'm happy to be retired... <br />smdh...Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Oct 28 at 2015 10:48 PM2015-10-28T22:48:32-04:002015-10-28T22:48:32-04:00SMSgt David A Asbury1073443<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, Pilots had made a reference about Molly, right away the Air Force is saying you are guilty until proven innocent about using drugs. SadResponse by SMSgt David A Asbury made Oct 28 at 2015 11:59 PM2015-10-28T23:59:37-04:002015-10-28T23:59:37-04:00Capt Mark Strobl1073460<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great example of an over-PC-focused, general officer's knee-jerk... or two.Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Oct 29 at 2015 12:11 AM2015-10-29T00:11:45-04:002015-10-29T00:11:45-04:00Maj Jeff Dodd1074051<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is sad to see, but I have seen varying degrees of this sort of thing since I first enlisted in the early 90's. Initially I thought that the increased scrutiny on service members personal affairs was a by product of being in a PRP position. Once I got rid of the PRP stink, I noticed that nothing had really changed. Supervisors and commanders are given too much authority to delve into a members cell phone and personal email. What's next? Conversations with spouses/girlfriends? Utterings at the bar after having a beer? Good luck getting quality volunteers to support this service in the future.<br /><br />News that texts sent to your friends from your personal cell phone could be used to NJP you and/or kick you out is going to spread quickly. <br /><br />I'm glad that I am retired!!! This painful exercise will only ensure that servicemembers have a plan to "Tom Brady" their phones/computers if they are called into their commanders office.Response by Maj Jeff Dodd made Oct 29 at 2015 10:17 AM2015-10-29T10:17:36-04:002015-10-29T10:17:36-04:002015-10-19T21:23:46-04:00