AR 670-1 says that full-size oak leaf clusters are worn on miniature medals. Does anyone know of any MILPER messages that fix this problem?

2017-02-07T16:23:54-05:00

Response by SFC Michael Krogmann made Feb 7 at 2017 4:42 PM

2017-02-07T16:42:23-05:00

Or ALARACT Messages?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2017 6:30 PM

2017-02-07T18:30:05-05:00

None that I can find.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Feb 7 at 2017 8:08 PM

2017-02-07T20:08:11-05:00

Guess I don't feel so bad about how bad the Navy Spells it out now either. My JMUC with Presidential Whatever Outline with Oak Leaf always seemed a bit Extreme too. If I understand right the JMUC with framed outline is for what I did in Fiery Vigil and the Oak Leaf is for what I did in Adak in the Cold War but still it confuses Me.

Response by MSG David Rogers III made Feb 8 at 2017 1:24 PM

2017-02-08T13:24:36-05:00

I always used miniature appurtenances because they sold them in the Clothing Sales, but never really saw it in the reg. (Shame on me, I thought always followed the reg).

So I dug real deep! I looked around and found this OLD reg..... US Code of Federal Regulation (CFR), from 1949 (see photo). Interestingly enough... the same verbiage is in the 2005 CFR. But CFR, Title 32, para 578 is not accessible in the current 2017 CFR.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2017 10:16 AM

2017-05-31T10:16:06-04:00

Just came across this situation today. The current reg makes it look like there is only one size of device for each type of device no matter what you wear it on. With the exception of the even larger Oak Leaf Clusters for the full size medals. Where I work we have been selling the mini oak leaves and stars for years, but neither one is mentioned in the reg at all.

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Oct 29 at 2019 1:13 AM

2019-10-29T01:13:02-04:00

This is a case where common sense overrules the regulation. Full size oak leaf clusters look bad on miniature medals which is why they make the in miniature sized.