Anyone besides me wondering if it is a coincidence that Russia has been very agressive since Eric Snowden has sought asylum there?

2014-08-07T12:05:24-04:00

It seems that the Russians have been very good at estimating our responses to their actions on the world stage the past couple years. Anyone besides me wondering if former NSA employee Eric Snowden has been very helpful to this cause? Think about it:
1. President Obama gives a "red line" in Syria, a staunch Russian ally, regarding use of chemical weapons. Evidence mounts that Assad in fact used Chemical weapons in population centers and the course is towards conflict (albeit "unimaginably small"). Suddenly Russia swoops in and brokers a deal that defuses the crisis and lets Assad stay in power - not that I'm complaining, they did us a favor even if I doubt their motives were altruistic. Problem solved!

2. Russia gets increasingly aggressive in trade with Europe, particularly regarding natural gas shipment via pipeline (as if they can sell gas in a pipeline to another country to someone other than people adjacent to the pipe) in the middle of a harsh winter. They blinked eventually because the Norweigians stepped up to the plate - wouldn't want to break up the monopoly after all, but they were clearly gauging the vulnerability of Europe to resource blackmail.

3. The obvious one in Ukraine. The Russians suddenly acquire an interest in the "plight" of ethnic Russians - or in the case of Donetsk, Russian-speaking Ukrainians. Never mind Russians and Ukrainians have been living side by side for centuries, generally amicably with a few notable exceptions (the Tatars, less so). Of course it has nothing to do with the very large gas fields recently discovered with western concessions drilling test wells in the Black Sea off the coast... a development that threatened the Russian near-monopoly on gas sales to Eastern Europe.
They are playing a strategy not seen in Europe since the 40's, betting that the European States (correctly) don't have the guts to back up Ukraine and that the US won't get involved. If the Russians really wanted to adjust borders, why now? Why in this manner?

Note that this is not a comment on current US politics, but rather an observation that our mail seems to be getting read by the Russians. Thoughts?

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2014 2:41 AM

2014-08-08T02:41:27-04:00

Not really. They have always flown close to the Alaska Air Defense Identification Zone since the Cold War ended. The zones around the US and around DC you have to ID via Radio, DVFR, or IFR. They want to know what you are doing, if you fail to ID they will scramble fighters to get eyes on and with Yeltsin it was pretty relaxed the pilots would talk etc but now most Russian pilots won't even respond to hails and the jets shadow them along the buffer zone.

There has been like what 10 bomber flights along the zone? One had a surveillance plane with them. We do the same games, a spy plane was locked on and flew across Switzerland. It is just a tango.

Russia is feeling the pinch from sanctions and EU consumes mostly Russian gas so they will be more aggressive with them.

I won't play politics here but Putin showed Obama to be very weak in foreign policy to the world here and he got to broker the UN deal. There were many many powers in play that this administration did not take into account. 1. Syria is Russia's only warm water port, they won't give it up. They will now tell Assad they saved them from the USA so they will get the contracts to widen the port and are putting a pipeline in. Turkey would be pissed likely make a buffer zone. We would of been fighting with some people that had just been shooting at us in Iraq. It would of been a huge cluster.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Aug 24 at 2014 12:48 PM

2014-08-24T12:48:32-04:00

I'm liking your thinking Top! Been a long time since we've had a good conspiracy theory running about.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2014 2:08 PM

2014-08-24T14:08:05-04:00

Georgia. Not the state...the country. Happened well before Snowden. The US did nothing about it. The former Soviet Union states are still loose client states of Russia. Those reaching out to the west are threats to the stability of what Russia sees as it's sphere of influence. It would be like Cuba siding with the Russians and allowing them to put nuclear missiles there...oh wait...that already happened. We'd go full-retard, just like we did before. Now Russia has a much lower tollerance for a$$-grabbery in their client states than we do, so when they reach too far out and begin to balk at the party line coming from Russia, Russia reaches out and puts them back in their place...and no one has done a thing. It's like that scene from Team America where "Hans Brix" tells Kim Jong Ill that if he doesn't allow him to see the entire palace that the UN will, "Write you a letter telling you how angry we are." Russia has built a network of economic lines of communication that it cannot see disrupted by an idealistic state who wants to ceceed from an unofficial partnership. The Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Georgia, the Central Asian "Stans" (Kazakstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, etc, etc) may all be "independent," but they damn sure aren't free to make their own decisions about moving too far away from mother Russia. Got nothing to do with Snowden. Russia knows exaclty what kind of government we have. They know exactly what our reactions are going to be. If they weren't sure of them, they wouldn't be so bold. A pencil-thin, self important, douche-copter like Snowden is not going to empower or enlighten Putin...that man knows what he is doing and I am surprised he hasn't killed him "accidentally" in a wrestling match with a bear while he is fishing without a shirt on.

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Aug 3 at 2015 8:59 PM

2015-08-03T20:59:20-04:00

1SG Jerry Healy
Of all the below comments your observations and the tie-in to Snowden are the most astute. Obamas' weakness, Russia's pipeline activity and the Russian movements in Ukraine. Overall, something (or someone) has emboldened Putin to the extent that we have to consider some Snowden influence. Now, Snowden's value to Putin could very well be the daily interpretation of Western newspaper articles and radio transmissions.
Thank You
Rick

Response by SPC Sean Kirksey made Nov 3 at 2019 10:45 PM

2019-11-03T22:45:51-05:00

Good Evening 1SG,
It's much deeper than mail being snooped upon.
I believe that Russia along with our current CIC are anti New World Order (as Bush senior repeatedly stated) and Putin is privy to many things we are not (we the people are not receiving the full spectrum. Putin is no angel, don't get me wrong but this global initiative is driving absolutely everything from Geo politics to sex education in our schools. It is a rabbit hole not everyone can look down. I believe the breakup of the USSR was a scam, a phsyop, our government has been infiltrated by Russia/China working with seditious traitors from within. So YES, that doesn't sound like a stretch regarding mail.
Just examine the state of our union, borders wide open, transgender, gay agendas being pushed EVERYWHERE, China owns most of Hollywood. The queer stuff is not the issue (to each his own) it is the subversion of our laws and way of life. Research G.Edward Griffin's interview with Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
Also,
International council on Local Environmental Initiatives (AKA U.N. Agenda 21 & Agenda 2030)
(In the EU it is openly talked about as UN Agenda 21 (AKA Local Governments for Sustainability & anything related to Sustainability and/or urban sprawl) (iclei.org). The iclei possesses special UN status & represents millions of NGOs & States. They state that they represent approx. 583 million people world wide.
Also,
THE UN SECRETARY GENERAL STATED(Maurice Frederick Strong): "THE AFFLUENCE OF AMERICANS IS A THREAT TO THE WORLD AND NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT INTO LINE WITH THE REST OF THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD" (1992 Earth Summit Rio de Janeiro). This is where the UN Agenda 21 was first codified. Conceived in 1976 by the Brundtland Commission and passed (UN) by 178 nations, signed by HW Bush (never ratified).
1993: Clinton formed the Presidents Council on Sustainable Development(energy, housing, education, etc, etc...included ENRON) Their first action was to form committees and paid The American Planning Assoc. $1 million to develop a legislative framework of laws, ordinances, statutes for local governments nation wide (Global agenda implemented locally)(Greenhouse Gasses) Attacking TRANSPORTATION. Also, created APA (GROWING SMART) (legislative guide book)(management of change)(SMART GROWTH). also, SUSTAINABLE AMERICA THE NEW CONSENSUS (neutralizing it's enemies).
Thank you for your service!

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