Posted on Sep 16, 2015
Ahmed Mohamed, 14, arrested over clock mistaken for bomb. Reasonable precaution or massive overreaction?
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What do you guys think? I can understand their initial reaction, however had this been someone else? Would the reaction be the same? Race card aside, it was handled pretty inappropriately as well. The situation could and should have been assessed on the spot especially since the engineering teacher already had knowledge.
Edited 9 y ago
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I have to ask,,, As you clearly KNOW the item in question was a clock.. Why did YOU choose to to use a picture depicting a bomb?
I can assume many negative things, or just assume you cared not to consider what your choice implies about your position on the topic.. But Id prefer to hear it from you SrA Edward Vong
Thanks
I can assume many negative things, or just assume you cared not to consider what your choice implies about your position on the topic.. But Id prefer to hear it from you SrA Edward Vong
Thanks
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SrA Edward Vong
SGM Erik Marquez
I know for a fact that was not what the clock looked like. The reason I used that specific image was because it looked like a great cover art to the topic, and I know the image would draw attention. I know most would have read the article and assessed what they feel.
My position is that the original reaction is warranted. The events that followed however were blown out of epic proportion. My overall position is moderate left if that's what you want to know.
I know for a fact that was not what the clock looked like. The reason I used that specific image was because it looked like a great cover art to the topic, and I know the image would draw attention. I know most would have read the article and assessed what they feel.
My position is that the original reaction is warranted. The events that followed however were blown out of epic proportion. My overall position is moderate left if that's what you want to know.
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SrA Edward Vong
SGM Erik Marquez
I do find it interesting how some responses were based on people just believing what they see rather than take time to read.
Can be an interesting social experiment.
I do find it interesting how some responses were based on people just believing what they see rather than take time to read.
Can be an interesting social experiment.
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First name 'Ahmed' last name 'Mohamed' and he looks Middle-Eastern. He never had a chance.
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PV2 Scott Goodpasture
Poor little prankster. Maybe he should stick to the curriculum instead of trying to scare the shit out of some idiot teacher
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Lets take a second and consider all things here. The incident was close to the anniversary of 9/11 (poor timing, likely not on the mind of our youth). Most of our average Americans knowledge of electronics/electrical systems are cloaked by attractive plastic and displays. Pop culture has portrayed many mobile bombs to be located in briefcases.
Now enter the situation after our populace is reminded about the events that changed the world in 2001, a young adult brings a brief case to school to show a teacher a clock he had built. Other teachers/students see a briefcase with wires and some circuit boards and worry, they call the police (if they don't have a resource officer(s) assigned to the school). They also become worried about the whole situation.
I understand where they are coming from, this should have been handled differently but you can't undo the past, you can only move forward and right wrongs and adjust policy based on fact/past events.
This also brings me to Teachers knowing their students, if they knew more about them not only would this prevent a situation like this, they could also foster more care and could elevate the learning of these students...
Now enter the situation after our populace is reminded about the events that changed the world in 2001, a young adult brings a brief case to school to show a teacher a clock he had built. Other teachers/students see a briefcase with wires and some circuit boards and worry, they call the police (if they don't have a resource officer(s) assigned to the school). They also become worried about the whole situation.
I understand where they are coming from, this should have been handled differently but you can't undo the past, you can only move forward and right wrongs and adjust policy based on fact/past events.
This also brings me to Teachers knowing their students, if they knew more about them not only would this prevent a situation like this, they could also foster more care and could elevate the learning of these students...
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PV2 Scott Goodpasture
Yes of course people are going to be suspicious. These teachers probably have more than 30 kids in their class at one time. And gee wiz not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim. At least 99.999 percent. Do they try to blend in make friends lie to your face before they kill you? Yes, that's what they do. If this kid was so smart he should not have brought his briefcase inert detonator to school. Yes that what is was a detonator without the explosives. You can call it a clock if you want to be a sheep and kiss some muzzie ass... free country.
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I served with a guy named usuma Ahmed his only ambition was to learn Combat Engineering and go home to defend his homeland against you know who.
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CPL Timothy Lane
Not all of the population in the Mideast are terrorist. Some love the country they grew up in and want to dispell the terrorist that threatens its/their future.
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PV2 Scott Goodpasture
Wow, That's Awesome. Does that mean a Muslim kid can blow up some American kids now? Or at least pretend?
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I'd say that clock does look like a suspicious device. I can understand the confusion and the concern for safety. It was a mistake on the part of authorities, but if the clock had been a bomb and had injured students, we'd be having a completely different discussion. Better safe than sorry, and an apology to Ahmed should suffice. IMHO, this story is being way overblown to make a political point.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
If we're being safe, maybe we should evacuate the school and bring in a bomb disposal unit...just saying.
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COL Ted Mc
Lt Col (Join to see) - Captain; Even fourteen-year-old Pedro Andrade said school officials were right to be cautious but added, "If they really did think that it was a bomb, why didn't they evacuate?".
For some reason this fourteen year old can see what the authorities did wrong when many adults are lauding them for their vigilance.
For some reason this fourteen year old can see what the authorities did wrong when many adults are lauding them for their vigilance.
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I'm neither for nor against this issue, but in the defense of the teachers and officers involved, would you feel safe if a kid brought something that actually looked like a bomb, but the teachers insisted that there was no way a young high school kid would know how to build a bomb and didn't think anything more of it?
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I've never seen any negative feedback about the military, I've started to wonder if that's the media just trying to make stories. I'm going to school and I see a lot of veterans using the GI bill. I get asked and I see them get asked.
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It doesn't mention one thing. Did he let his teacher know he was bringing it? I was in drama club in high school and brought props in all the time. If I didn't let the principal and teachers know in advance that I was bringing questionable items, I got in trouble.
Airport security would probably lose their minds if it was brought in willy nilly but as far as the White House goes, if the president asked and actually made arrangements so he wasn't harassed then I don't see why he would get stopped.
Airport security would probably lose their minds if it was brought in willy nilly but as far as the White House goes, if the president asked and actually made arrangements so he wasn't harassed then I don't see why he would get stopped.
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The difference is, unless the individual is transporting a national science project, there is no reason to bring that device on to an aircraft. A kid wanted to show off his project to a teacher. The reaction is understandable, what it led to was unnecessary.
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It depends. I tried to look into this more and sort of ran into dead ends. Was there a science project related assignment? Or something that this fit into? A shop/electronics class? If not then bringing it to school was silly and with how it looks I don't think that has anything to do with his background.
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