After enlisting in the NG, how should I handle a situation where I am not being paid and my recruiter does not seem to care?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:03:10 -0500

Ok...please don't jump to conclusion before reading my problem! So I joined the California National Guard back in June of last year (2020). I have been going to my trainings since then. I am supposed to be getting paid for "drills" since then, yet... I have not gotten a single dime since I started "drilling". My recruiter doesn't give a crap... she says that DFAS has changed their coding system...so it's hard to get a soldier paid ( Which I call that bull crap, since I worked for DFAS when I was on active duty and have call them and they said I am not in their system). I keep on telling her to fix it, but she honestly doesn't care. So the problem is... that when I signed up, she said I was going to get a waiver to not go to basic training! However, according to her...my waiver was denied (and she has no proof) so I have to go to basic training (which I don't really care because I don't mind going to basic training) But I do mind on going if I am not getting paid...and what guarantees me that I will ever get paid? As prior service, I have no respect for her nor her rank! Should I bring that up or just let it go and hope I get paid for all these months? And if I bring it up... who do I bring it up when she's the NCOIC?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2021 12:07 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:07:44 -0500

Is there someone else in the NCO Support channel or Chain of Command you can talk to? Possibly try the commander's open door policy is my suggestion. Good luck, CPL.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Feb 18 at 2021 12:29 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:29:25 -0500

Look, there is a paper trail somewhere, how else can you be drilling with a unit. In that unit you should have the whole chain of command chomping at the bit to fix this. Thats there job, technically when you hit the unit you where out of the recruiter's hair. Nobody wants you going hungry. Talk to your NCO chain and the ask to see the CO.

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Feb 18 at 2021 12:37 AM

SFC Melvin Brandenburg — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:37:59 -0500

I spent the last two and a half years as senior RSP cadre (in E9 slot). Contact your RSP unit readiness NCO. You will eventually get paid. If not by the time you ship to basic, at basic when you in process. But, push the issue with your RSP readiness NCO first and then work up the chain of command from there. It does take a while to sometimes get these things fixed. I've had that happen to me. But, you have to talk with the right people. Your recruiter isn't the unit pay clerk, the readiness NCO is. Don't go to the recruiter if you want this issue fixed.

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Feb 18 at 2021 12:48 AM

SFC Melvin Brandenburg — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:48:47 -0500

I have to be honest, I don't know of BCT being waiverable. I've never heard of that. You might have gotten some bad info. Which explains your reported experience with the recruiter.

Response by SPC Reimundo Maldonado Sierra made Feb 18 at 2021 3:51 AM

SPC Reimundo Maldonado Sierra — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 03:51:15 -0500

That's interesting, I have the same situation. National Guard, Prior service, assigned to RSP Unit, BCT waiver denied, not getting paid. My shipping date is on March 15, so I assume this issue will not be fixed before I leave. I have drill tomorrow and will go over my cadre and my human resources NCO again about it and let you know what they said.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Feb 18 at 2021 1:30 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:30:18 -0500

The recruiter has nothing to do with your pay, nor Basic Training, if as you say you have been to drills. The pay issue and your basic date should be supported and determined by your unit.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2021 2:01 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:01:24 -0500

Your recruiter has nothing to do with your drill pay for RSP.
That's why your recruiter has no reason to care.
You say you called DFAS and they say you're not in the system.
That means you need to go to the AGR at your RSP det, show your LES history that you have received no pay for what looks like 8 or 9 drills now.
Your AGR needs to resubmit an SF 1199A to USPFO to create your pay account in the Guard, and then submit for all the missed drill pays.
This is something you should have done at your July RSP drill.
i would be willing to email your AGR, but I looked at all the Carrillos we have in RSP today, none of them are old enough to be prior service.