CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR 223668 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>or would you ask for more information about the role and talk about how your background and experience matches with the role? A civilian recruiter emails you an open position they are recruiting for. Should you respond by asking what the salary is? 2014-08-31T21:32:53-04:00 CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR 223668 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>or would you ask for more information about the role and talk about how your background and experience matches with the role? A civilian recruiter emails you an open position they are recruiting for. Should you respond by asking what the salary is? 2014-08-31T21:32:53-04:00 2014-08-31T21:32:53-04:00 SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL 224739 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Roger, I get this from anyomous job engine sites and I alway ask the job recruiters for more detail and a website for begineers. Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Sep 1 at 2014 11:23 PM 2014-09-01T23:23:38-04:00 2014-09-01T23:23:38-04:00 Capt Brandon Charters 226219 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There are a couple reasons why it's good to wait until the recruiter is willing to hire you to talk salary. 1- Shows that you care more about the work you'll be doing than the money. 2- If the recruiter likes you, he/she could have 20+ positions waiting for you with various salary ranges. You might've blown your chances by talking money first. Win the recruiter over first! Response by Capt Brandon Charters made Sep 3 at 2014 10:30 AM 2014-09-03T10:30:31-04:00 2014-09-03T10:30:31-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 226223 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>After you are offered the position you should tell them what you want to be paid, then negotiate from there. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 3 at 2014 10:35 AM 2014-09-03T10:35:27-04:00 2014-09-03T10:35:27-04:00 SGT Richard H. 226240 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ask for more information about the position. Location. Duties. Responsibilities. You can usually pull it out of them, but you should build a rapport first. When/if you do ask about it (if you're asking prior to an offer being made) express your question as "salary RANGE" to give yourself a better idea of where your negotiating parameters lie. <br /><br />Is this a recruiter that works for the company, or a headhunter for a recruiting company? One point to make, if it's a headhunter, don't be afraid to talk salary fairly quickly. It's in their best interest to get you as high in the salary range as they can, since they get paid a percentage of your agreed salary. (by the company that hires you, not from your income) Response by SGT Richard H. made Sep 3 at 2014 10:55 AM 2014-09-03T10:55:30-04:00 2014-09-03T10:55:30-04:00 PO1 Private RallyPoint Member 226554 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Negotiating salary, etc., is something I normally do in the end. I have turned down more than one offer based on insufficient sallary and/or benefits especially when the company made the offer and basically said: "take it or leave it". Once I get that message I usually figure they are no longer interested and are just hoping I will simply take the offer tendered. Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 3 at 2014 3:47 PM 2014-09-03T15:47:35-04:00 2014-09-03T15:47:35-04:00 Maj Walter Kilar 226756 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are a quality candidate, then some company is willing to pay you the salary you are worth. If you cannot find someone willing to pay what you think you are worth, I would take that as a sign that you are over-valuing yourself. Win over the recruiter, then win over everyone else in the hiring chain. At some point you will be able to negotiate within a certain range of salaries. Response by Maj Walter Kilar made Sep 3 at 2014 7:15 PM 2014-09-03T19:15:37-04:00 2014-09-03T19:15:37-04:00 SPC David S. 226971 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my experience the first person to ask loses. Do you research first once you find out more about what the position is and shoot for the top salary for your area. Response by SPC David S. made Sep 3 at 2014 10:16 PM 2014-09-03T22:16:03-04:00 2014-09-03T22:16:03-04:00 Cpl Matthew Wall 227380 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As some have stated all ready I usually wait until the end to bring up salary. I usually want to find out more about the position and if I am actually suited for it. Sometimes recruiters just pick out key words from a resume and automatically think you are a fit for a position when in reality you are not. I would find out more about the position and if it is a fit then you should start negotiating a salary. If they ask you what your salary requirements are I usually either give a firm salary or I give a 10k window for them. Let's say you want an 80k salary. I would go 80-90k or even do 80-85k just to see what happens. Or if you want to go firm you can say 85k and negotiate from there if you must. Response by Cpl Matthew Wall made Sep 4 at 2014 8:54 AM 2014-09-04T08:54:30-04:00 2014-09-04T08:54:30-04:00 SSG David Kaelin 227618 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I find it a bit of a double standard that an employee or prospective employee cannot be "all about the money" when the purpose of each and every for profit corporate entity is to make money.<br /><br />An employee is supposed to be interested in a career. Money is supposed to be secondary.<br /><br />Ask any wealthy person and they'll tell you that this is the great lie of the Capitalism Game. <br /><br />A Capitalist is in it to make money. Labor, apparently, is supposed to be selfless and desirous of a career. Idealism...work for the greater good of the corporation.<br /><br />Realizing that, yes, one must play the game and pretend that one is interested in a career, the fact of the matter is that "career" is a Dodo bird. The average employee works for a Corporation for around a decade in our present era. There are no longer any long term benefits to loyalty to any Corporation.<br /><br />Any employee should treat themselves as if they are a short term contractor.<br /><br />What is in it for you? How can you leverage your talents to the greatest benefit to the corporate entity for the greatest compensation possible?<br /><br />Corporations will sell you out and lay you off at the first sign of troubles unless you are in the Top 10 to 20 percent of their earners or in some other way indispensable.<br /><br />Do not go in looking to be loyal to a Corporation. Unless it is your Corporation and your investments on the line.<br /><br />Corporations see labor as the first hit in streamlining...and if they can find a way to automate your position, look for it to happen and start learning a new skill.<br /><br />I've spent the last decade contracting in Afghanistan and the ME. I've worked for KBR, Mantech, AECOM, L-3/MPRI, DynCorp and Raytheon. I've earned promotions at each except this last as I've been with them only a short time. I earn my keep and stand out from the crowd usually rather easily. I have no loyalty to any of these folks. However, as long as they are paying me a good salary, I will do my utmost to earn my pay and to make the Corporation look good and do my part in extending or winning new contracts. If someone offers me a better gig, better pay, better hours, better vacation...I will leave in a heartbeat.<br /><br />Why? Because they'll descope you in a heartbeat. I've been lucky to have been able to standout and earn promotions and bonuses because I know how to do my job and don't mind getting my hands dirty. However, having worked in the "Headshed," I know how things work. <br /><br />It's a dirty business. It's all a dirty business. Even back in the States. Response by SSG David Kaelin made Sep 4 at 2014 12:27 PM 2014-09-04T12:27:05-04:00 2014-09-04T12:27:05-04:00 PO1 Devon Hannans 227831 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Background and experience is relevant; One ability to find their fit with a company based on skills and academic is pertinent to salary requirement's Response by PO1 Devon Hannans made Sep 4 at 2014 3:51 PM 2014-09-04T15:51:00-04:00 2014-09-04T15:51:00-04:00 CSM Private RallyPoint Member 271853 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would never recommend that as your first inquiry. If you develop a rapport with the recruiter, they are going to work with you and find you the best suited (and paying) job that meets your skill set and goals. <br /><br />In my opinion (and experience) in the beginning, it is sometimes necessary to sacrifice a little on the salary part if the job/career path/industry is in line with what you really want to do. If you are in the industry you really want to be in, you will succeed and the salary will follow. Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2014 7:31 AM 2014-10-10T07:31:53-04:00 2014-10-10T07:31:53-04:00 SPC David Shaffer 275422 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would personally wait. After they want you and know your abilities you are always able to negotiate salary or possibly be offered something better based on your job skills, people skills, and all that you will bring to the business. It's not always what you say but how you say it. Everyone loves a positive person. I've heard a smile is contagious ;) Response by SPC David Shaffer made Oct 12 at 2014 8:40 PM 2014-10-12T20:40:33-04:00 2014-10-12T20:40:33-04:00 PO2 Tamera Pantejo 277964 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, Ask about what the position is and show your interest in the jobs. The subject of salary should be come up after you have been offered the position. Response by PO2 Tamera Pantejo made Oct 14 at 2014 7:24 PM 2014-10-14T19:24:46-04:00 2014-10-14T19:24:46-04:00 2014-08-31T21:32:53-04:00