Posted on Dec 21, 2023
What was your “grass is greener on the other side” realization when you switched branches or MOS?
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There was always something I saw in others the whole time I was in. People stationed somewhere they didn't like would always say if I got my orders to "some place" approved things would be better. I was stationed in Washington DC from 2001-2003 and people would complain that being at a fleet unit would be so much better. I get to a fleet unit and people complain that another Regiment would be better than where we were. People apply for Special Duty assignments saying it would be better there. Then you get there and somebody is complaining about going to the fleet again. Then you have people complaining that they wanted Aviation but got orders to a Ground unit. Or vice versa. It's a circular debate that never ends because some people are never gonna be happy. Usually the same people who are dirtbags that complain everyday while in Uniform but you see them complaining at the American legion canteen "I never should have got out". Same dude that as a veteran irons his jeans and wears a vet hat and maybe some other piece of random military bling like Calvary spurs, alice clip utility pouches or a web belt while in civilian attire.
I served 11 1/2 years before being medically retired and I served at 6 different duty stations and several schools in that time. Duty stations are what you make of them and generally the only thing that makes it good/bad is the command team and their influence. Everything else is pretty much the same.
I served 11 1/2 years before being medically retired and I served at 6 different duty stations and several schools in that time. Duty stations are what you make of them and generally the only thing that makes it good/bad is the command team and their influence. Everything else is pretty much the same.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
SSgt Christophe Murphy -
I Don't Know What 29 Palms Looks Like Today, But When I Lived In Santa Ana, From Around 1965 - 1972, I'd Been There Several Times On Business. ~ There Were 29 Palm Trees Down The Center Of The Road & The Mayor Of 29 Palms Was The Owner Of A Service Station; ~ And In 29 Palms There Was Absolutely NOTHING To Do....
GREAT PLACE To Go AWOL
I Don't Know What 29 Palms Looks Like Today, But When I Lived In Santa Ana, From Around 1965 - 1972, I'd Been There Several Times On Business. ~ There Were 29 Palm Trees Down The Center Of The Road & The Mayor Of 29 Palms Was The Owner Of A Service Station; ~ And In 29 Palms There Was Absolutely NOTHING To Do....
GREAT PLACE To Go AWOL
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
SSgt Christophe Murphy -
One Of My Occupations Was As An Insurance Salesman ~ Our Team COVERED Southern California, Including 29 Palms.... I Was There Somewhere Around 1966 Or 1967.
~ The City Mayor Was Still The Owner/Operator Of A Gasoline Station ~~ YUP Around The Same Time As You..... Including The 29 Palm Trees Down The Main Street..
.~ Other Than THAT ~ There Wasn't SH*T. ~ And In PARIS, The Business District: Was About 3 - 5 Blocks Long...
~ In Santa Ana ~ In The Small Shopping Center At The Corners Of Standard & McFadden, There Was A Donut Shop ~ "The Donut Hole" ~ I Was A Part Owner, With 3 Brothers & A Brother-in-law... Only 2 Worked There, I Was Just A Contributor For The "Start-Up" Funds.... Got It Stared Just For Fun & To See 'What Happened "IF"~~ And It Was REALLY A Successful Investment.... I Worked At Cherry Rivet Manufacturing Company ~~ Can You Guess What We Did...? ~~ Yup We Made Rivets....LOL
One Of My Occupations Was As An Insurance Salesman ~ Our Team COVERED Southern California, Including 29 Palms.... I Was There Somewhere Around 1966 Or 1967.
~ The City Mayor Was Still The Owner/Operator Of A Gasoline Station ~~ YUP Around The Same Time As You..... Including The 29 Palm Trees Down The Main Street..
.~ Other Than THAT ~ There Wasn't SH*T. ~ And In PARIS, The Business District: Was About 3 - 5 Blocks Long...
~ In Santa Ana ~ In The Small Shopping Center At The Corners Of Standard & McFadden, There Was A Donut Shop ~ "The Donut Hole" ~ I Was A Part Owner, With 3 Brothers & A Brother-in-law... Only 2 Worked There, I Was Just A Contributor For The "Start-Up" Funds.... Got It Stared Just For Fun & To See 'What Happened "IF"~~ And It Was REALLY A Successful Investment.... I Worked At Cherry Rivet Manufacturing Company ~~ Can You Guess What We Did...? ~~ Yup We Made Rivets....LOL
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LTJG Phillip Panuco
About September 1973, I was transferred to Technical Guidance Unit (TGU), a unit of Naval Security Group Detachment Pearl Harbor. This was a dream come true for me to be assigned to Hawaii. While staying at the barracks, there were young sailors bemoaning about being assigned to "the rock" in the middle of the ocean. I could not convince these barracks rats that there was a life outside of Naval Base Pearl Harbor. There was the fabulous Wikiki Beach, young female tourists looking for fun and drinking, and the night life such as luaus, walking on the beach, etc. But they could not see beyond their noses.
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SPC William Hall
My first duty station was in Korea, it was kinda isolated, our HQ was in Yongsan nothing really to do in your free time except drink. In retrospect, I never knew how good we had it until I got to my unit at Ft. Campbell. The first comment I heard was my new 1SG calling every one "legs", because he just returned from jump school. Talk about toxic command.
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The Air Force is a 180 degree difference from the Marine Corps.
Air Force - Better chow, living quarters, more lenient on regulations (uniform, boots, hair etc.) and the hours are more like business hours. Not a lot of military bearing like formations or drilling. But I did see a lot of dedicated individuals.
Marine Corps - Strict on regulations, more pride in appearance and military bearing. A lot of pride knowing the history of the Corps and maintaining that history throughout the years and generations. Not the best chow unless you are on a Navy base or ship. Earning the Eagle Globe and Anchor instills a great achievement and confidence in self worth.
I have always missed the Corps!
Air Force - Better chow, living quarters, more lenient on regulations (uniform, boots, hair etc.) and the hours are more like business hours. Not a lot of military bearing like formations or drilling. But I did see a lot of dedicated individuals.
Marine Corps - Strict on regulations, more pride in appearance and military bearing. A lot of pride knowing the history of the Corps and maintaining that history throughout the years and generations. Not the best chow unless you are on a Navy base or ship. Earning the Eagle Globe and Anchor instills a great achievement and confidence in self worth.
I have always missed the Corps!
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
PO1 (Join to see) -
I KNOW You Have A Point: On Our Air Force Base In South Korea ~ "OSAN" To Be Exact,
We Had NO Military Personnel Employed In Our "Restaurants", And Every "Cook" Was A Top Notch Korean CHEF, And Our Food EXCEEDED Perfection; ~~ Over The Double-Door Entrance-way Was A 1/2 Moon Sign, Which UNDER-Stated How Great Our Food Was:
~~ "RECOMMENDED By DUNCAN HEINZ" ~~
I KNOW You Have A Point: On Our Air Force Base In South Korea ~ "OSAN" To Be Exact,
We Had NO Military Personnel Employed In Our "Restaurants", And Every "Cook" Was A Top Notch Korean CHEF, And Our Food EXCEEDED Perfection; ~~ Over The Double-Door Entrance-way Was A 1/2 Moon Sign, Which UNDER-Stated How Great Our Food Was:
~~ "RECOMMENDED By DUNCAN HEINZ" ~~
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PO3 David Clark
My wife was an AK and she fondly remembers her squadron ending up at AF bases and the MIDRATS were far superior to what the Navy offered.
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1stSgt Rick Ensenbach
While I would agree there are differences between the branches, your comments about leniency and lack of military bearing in the Air Force are inaccurate or based on your limited experience in the Air Force. As a 21 year Air Force veteran, I did not see leniency or lack of military bearing as the norm, quite the opposite. I agree, we didn’t march every day, or do daily PT (at least not as a unit), and care a weapon as the norm. We did however have to maintain all code of conduct in accordance with the UCMJ and military regulations. I take great pride in my Air Force career and wearing the uniform of the Air Force with honor, respect and dignity, like many others before and after me. The Air Force as a whole is not a sloppy or lenient representation of the U.S. military. Contrary to popular belief, the Air Force does do other things than just fly. We do deploy to the field, we do need to qualify with a weapon, we do need to learn how to operate in chemical warfare gear, we do operate in war zones under the same conditions as our Army and Marine counterparts.
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PO1 Robert Ryan
I was stationed at Pearl twice for Shore Duty and also one Sea Duty . I totally enjoyed my time there, On Shore Duty I was with the Base Master At Arms, and Sea Duty as the Assistant Chief Master at Arms. Pearl was my last Duty Station and I retired in June 1989. If I could have afforded to live in Hawaii when I retired I would have stayed. I was a Master At Arms for all my duty in Hawaii. MA1 USN RET.
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I went from Aviation and Armor to Finance. I tell you this. Some of the support units have their own craziness to deal with. For example, gate guard and funeral details depleted the Finance soldiers, but we still had the mission to support the garrison and the community. The Brigade CO did not like me because I told him that finance operations would suffer if the unit was detailed out. Fortunately, I was able to talk to the garrison SGM who would bring the Finance CO under the command and control of the garrison.
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