Posted on Jun 19, 2015
How do you guys feel about Bernie Sanders? I see him as a kind of 'lesser of evils.'
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Capt Seid Waddell
SPC William Pearce, are you comparing Bernie Sanders to the other Democrats or to the entire field?
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I believe we have fought socialism/communism for the past 50 years. It would be a bit odd to elect one as POTUS. However, we were warned in the 1950's that we would never accept Communism, without a couple generations of 'education.' Given our liberal education system, colleges and 'entitlements' policy, we are probably poised to evolve into a Communist/Socialist country.
We are the longest democratically elected republic in world history. Most end/collapse after 200 years. Following a cycle of dependence on government (Kings and autocrats), independence (Revolution and Exodus), inter-dependence (Socialism and Communism) and back to dependence, it may be natural (despite our disdain) for the US to enter an inter-dependence phase. Once the system collapses from lost employment, will to work and the treasury is depleted.
We are the longest democratically elected republic in world history. Most end/collapse after 200 years. Following a cycle of dependence on government (Kings and autocrats), independence (Revolution and Exodus), inter-dependence (Socialism and Communism) and back to dependence, it may be natural (despite our disdain) for the US to enter an inter-dependence phase. Once the system collapses from lost employment, will to work and the treasury is depleted.
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Capt Seid Waddell
COL Scott Harrison, agreed, sir. I believe that the leftist culture that is in control of our educational system represents the internal rot that has brought down civilizations throughout history.
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I definitely would not mind having Sanders in office over Hillary, as he's running as a Democrat (not that I would vote for Hillary because I won't).
I actually agree with him on SOME of his issues, but a few things about him bother me.
1) His flip flopping views on gun control
2) He supports universal health care
3) He appears to be for regulating the media (correct me if I'm wrong please)
4) He is a self-described "Democratic Socialist." To me personally, the term "Socialist" is a little too close to "Communist."
Where I agree with him:
1) To heck with Israel - let them take care of themselves. I can never forgive Israel for its blatant attack of the USS Liberty
2) Repeal the Patriot Act
3) Increase VA Disability Compensation
4) Is against increased immigration, in particular H-1B visas
5) Criminal justice reform (though his views on ending the war on drugs/legalizing marijuana for recreational use is very vague)
All told, I will support a Sanders Presidency but I will not vote for him if he gets the Democrat nomination. There are too many things about him that make me feel uneasy. I will most likely vote for Rand Paul (if he gets nominated).
I actually agree with him on SOME of his issues, but a few things about him bother me.
1) His flip flopping views on gun control
2) He supports universal health care
3) He appears to be for regulating the media (correct me if I'm wrong please)
4) He is a self-described "Democratic Socialist." To me personally, the term "Socialist" is a little too close to "Communist."
Where I agree with him:
1) To heck with Israel - let them take care of themselves. I can never forgive Israel for its blatant attack of the USS Liberty
2) Repeal the Patriot Act
3) Increase VA Disability Compensation
4) Is against increased immigration, in particular H-1B visas
5) Criminal justice reform (though his views on ending the war on drugs/legalizing marijuana for recreational use is very vague)
All told, I will support a Sanders Presidency but I will not vote for him if he gets the Democrat nomination. There are too many things about him that make me feel uneasy. I will most likely vote for Rand Paul (if he gets nominated).
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Just thought I'd leave this here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-pakman2/bernie-sanders-is-the-mainstream-candidate-not-an-extremist_b_7547150.html
Now granted, this is from HuffPo, but the thought should be provoking because the base claims check out. On issue after issue, most of Bernie Sanders' positions are in line with a majority of America's opinions, as long as you evaluate the positions individually and don't simply base your opinion of candidates off party ideological lines.
That's not to say that something popular with a majority is automatically right, or the best position of the available options, but fundamentally his positions are technically mainstream even if you won't see them portrayed as such in any major media.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-pakman2/bernie-sanders-is-the-mainstream-candidate-not-an-extremist_b_7547150.html
Now granted, this is from HuffPo, but the thought should be provoking because the base claims check out. On issue after issue, most of Bernie Sanders' positions are in line with a majority of America's opinions, as long as you evaluate the positions individually and don't simply base your opinion of candidates off party ideological lines.
That's not to say that something popular with a majority is automatically right, or the best position of the available options, but fundamentally his positions are technically mainstream even if you won't see them portrayed as such in any major media.
Bernie Sanders Is the Mainstream Candidate, Not an Extremist
When corporate media decides to take a break from ignoring Vermont Senator and 2016 Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, he is typically framed as a far-left, extreme socialist whose views are not representative of anything but a small minority of voters.
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