Posted on Mar 24, 2022
I’m not getting paid for drill and brought it up to my command but still nothing for the past 4 months. What steps can I take to get paid ?
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Direct Deposit in place and accurate? Are you receiving an LES? Have you read said LES and does it state a debt is in place? Have you called DFAS? If you've done all of the above and still no proper answer/explanation has been given, then you need to elevate this up the flag pole. Time to use the Open Door policy of your CSM.
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SFC Dan Thomsen
as the 1SG above stated, you need to find your enlistment documents for the ARNG. You need S1 to take those and use them to load you into the unit from where ever you are in the system. If you are not in the system then the enlistment documents need to be loaded to bring you in and then they can get your backpay processed. Army Emergency Relief may help you with funds due to this issue if you need money ASAP. If you make no traction within 2 working days of your S1 having in their hands your documents that bring you into the ARNG, contact your state's Inspector General. Someone needs some fuel to make this happen and an e-mail from the IG is plenty of fuel to use to move things along swiftly. 4 Months in unsatisfactory for the S1 shop not resolving this.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
SFC Dan Thomsen - Would it not be faster to give docs to the BN AO, as the S-1 may be an M Day soldier?
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SFC Dan Thomsen
MAJ Ronnie Reams - You have a point but something like this would never have been sat on by an M-day in my realm so I never considered that. My S1 officer was M-day but even they would have followed up with the AGR S1 person or the unit readiness NCO. Good point though, wouldn't want it sitting in a inbox somewhere.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
MAJ Ronnie Reams - In reality, the BN Admin NCO/S1 NCO would be the one doing the work. As M-Day BN S1, I think I averaged at least one day a week in the office, plus phone calls. If this soldier's CO would have called me, it would have gotten done whether I was in the Office or not.
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1. provide an SF 1199A to your Readiness NCO
2. Watch your Readiness NCO submit that SF 1199A on a TL to USPFO
3. Ask your Readiness NCO to confirm that you have an MMPA established and show you. (you would have seen a blank LES when the MMPA was created).
4. Ask your Readiness NCO to show you that you were listed, and coded P on the last 4 MUPS 1379s for drill.
5. Ask you Readiness NCO to submit a pay problem TL to USPFO to pay you for the 4 drills you didn't get paid for.
Typically a problem like yours (coming from AD to Guard) is that the RNCO submits that SF 1199A to USPFO, USPFO fails to create the MMPA, the RNCO sees your name on the 1379 and the system shows you were submitted for pay, but then it goes to held pay at DFAS because no account (MMPA) was created for you.
Which means your RNCO failed to follow up and check your MMPA, something he is responsible for checking for every name in the company, every month.
2. Watch your Readiness NCO submit that SF 1199A on a TL to USPFO
3. Ask your Readiness NCO to confirm that you have an MMPA established and show you. (you would have seen a blank LES when the MMPA was created).
4. Ask your Readiness NCO to show you that you were listed, and coded P on the last 4 MUPS 1379s for drill.
5. Ask you Readiness NCO to submit a pay problem TL to USPFO to pay you for the 4 drills you didn't get paid for.
Typically a problem like yours (coming from AD to Guard) is that the RNCO submits that SF 1199A to USPFO, USPFO fails to create the MMPA, the RNCO sees your name on the 1379 and the system shows you were submitted for pay, but then it goes to held pay at DFAS because no account (MMPA) was created for you.
Which means your RNCO failed to follow up and check your MMPA, something he is responsible for checking for every name in the company, every month.
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