Posted on Jun 16, 2015
How many "retired reserve" members received a certificate of retirement?
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At the point of retirement from active reserve status to retired status [either because of becoming eligible for retirement or mandatory retirement date] each service member has an option to become a gray area retiree which links their retired salary to the active duty salary at the time of their retirement; but, subjects us to recall to active duty.
I have learned from other RallyPoint members that they received Certificates of Retirement from their respective services [US Navy and US Air Force] at the end of military reserve component service.
I expect the US Army and US Marine Corps also provide Certificates of Retirement; but, I have never seen one.
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I have learned from other RallyPoint members that they received Certificates of Retirement from their respective services [US Navy and US Air Force] at the end of military reserve component service.
I expect the US Army and US Marine Corps also provide Certificates of Retirement; but, I have never seen one.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Stephen C. Maj William W. "Bill" Price Capt Christopher Mueller Capt Seid Waddell CW5 (Join to see) SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SSgt (Join to see) SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT John " Mac " McConnell SGT Robert George SP5 Robert Ruck SCPO Morris RamseyCPL Eric Escasio SPC (Join to see) SrA Christopher Wright SPC Margaret Higgins
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I received a box with certificates, a flag, a coin and lapel pin six months after retirement in 2013. The Presidential signature was that of George W. Bush. For the record, USAR, President Bush had been out of office for 4.5 years. It sort of spoke to the entire 31 year career, though.
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Roger on not having our current president (spelled w/a small "p") on anything sent to me!!!
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Although most who retire at my rank are provided with a great send-off, because I am in the IRR, I decided to perform the retirement protocol officer duties myself. So, I contacted the Army Retirement services office and asked that they request a standard retirement packet (Certificate, POTUS Letter, SecDef letter, Army Chief Letter and Congress/Senate letter), I submitted a request to my Governor and notified my Army Branch Chief of my retirement. I believe that if you don't ask, you probably won't get it because the people responsible for getting these for you don't do their job.
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MAJ Marilyn Senz
I sent 4 e-mails to to the Ft Jackson Retirement Services Office over the last 3 years requesting the retirement package consisting of certificates and flag. I wanted these items for my family as keepsakes since I never got a retirement ceremony or retirement award from my unit. I was medically retired as an O-4 with almost 25 years of service. I never expected a retirement award, but would really like the certificates. What do I need to do from here?
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MAJ Senz you should contact HRC retiree services to request certificate as well as online request to POTUS and Governor. Requests are handled in 30 days
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PFC Kayla Harris
I was IRR and didn't have enough points to qualify for a COE ... although I finished 12+ years. There are NG that are eligible and only have 6 months but were activated for COVID.
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I found out I was officially retired accidentally, when I was looking for something on the HRC website...
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LTC Stephen F. long story, but it was ok by me. I was about to drop a packet anyway. The docs had grounded me and taken me off jump status. I wasn’t ready to drive a desk and was going to focus on my civilian career (I retired from the Reserves)
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MAJ (Join to see) - I had a similar situation. In 2010, I had just left mobilization status and had completed my annual physical pending a renewal of my mobilization orders (I had been mobilized or extended every year since 2002). Because the VA and DoD had joined processes, to ensure disability ratings could be reported quicker, all of my VA disabilities now became available to DoD. As such, my military evaluation placed me on permanent profiles and since, I was in the IRR, USARC thought it best to conduct an Retention Board. Without notice, I received discharge orders (not retirement orders) after serving 32 years. Thankfully, I had enough connections and knowledge of the regulations to know this was wrong. So, in a month's time, my medical records were forwarded to a Physical Evaluation Board, documenting my profile status and recommending retention. As a result, my discharge was revoked and I was mobilized for another 2 years before I transferred to a Reserve unit for my final 2 years. By 2014, I decided that I had had enough of the quarterly sensitivity training that had replaced Army readiness training and popped smoke.
During this time, I had another Reservist contact me after she had returned from Afghanistan and was discharged. While serving in a mobilization status, she had crossed sanctuary and had completed 20 years of Active Federal Service. However, since she had been mobilized from a TPU status, the Army decided to discharge her. It took me about a month to help her informed the Army that they were in error and the only legal method for her to leave active duty was Active retirement or medical retirement. So, they put her back on Active Duty at Fort Benning to complete her retirement out-processing. Again, it helped to know the system.
My only concern was for those, who didn't know the system, didn't have the right connections and just accepted the erroneous decision of HRC or USARC or NGB. I always wonder how many Reserve and National Guard people get screwed out of pay and benefits because they don't recognize the error or just give in.
During this time, I had another Reservist contact me after she had returned from Afghanistan and was discharged. While serving in a mobilization status, she had crossed sanctuary and had completed 20 years of Active Federal Service. However, since she had been mobilized from a TPU status, the Army decided to discharge her. It took me about a month to help her informed the Army that they were in error and the only legal method for her to leave active duty was Active retirement or medical retirement. So, they put her back on Active Duty at Fort Benning to complete her retirement out-processing. Again, it helped to know the system.
My only concern was for those, who didn't know the system, didn't have the right connections and just accepted the erroneous decision of HRC or USARC or NGB. I always wonder how many Reserve and National Guard people get screwed out of pay and benefits because they don't recognize the error or just give in.
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