Posted on Jun 14, 2015
How do you properly deal with a superior who does not adhere to regulations?
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I am sure this type of topic has been brought up somewhere else but I cant find it and am looking for advice. In brief my specific situation is as follows:
My base is FPCON Bravo , my ship shares the pier with another ship and when I was standing as the Anti Terrorism Watch Officer the other day I got informed that the upper chain of command on the other ship (Ship A) consistently refuses to open their bags up to the compulsory bag check when entering the pier ( that's a 100% , all personnel identification and baggage check). At our entry control point the guard is supplied by both ships. When discussing this with the sentries after watch they informed me that guards from ship A ( the other ship) were directed not to enforce the entry and exit procedures on their upper chain. My upper chain plays by the rules.
I think there is a National defense act and other guidance that states " consent to search" when entering a controlled area but I cant find it and I would like guidance on how to address this situation.
Beside the obvious disregard for posted policy and the poor example being "above the rules" sets, I am more concerned that this practice is dangerous to allow to continue in the name of security as it breeds complacency.
**UPDATE**
I reported it to my XO who in turn referred it to our CO, they agree that it is an issue and are going to handle it at the command level. While we do share security of the pier, we are not the senior ship (SOPA) as such it is more difficult to get them to comply and I have been told to be patient on the issue. We have instructed our sentries that if someone can confirm them as the CO, XO or CMC of the ship them to not press the issue while this is being resolved. We joked about putting their pictures up with a " do not search " sign but recognize that as antagonistic and a further security threat.
My base is FPCON Bravo , my ship shares the pier with another ship and when I was standing as the Anti Terrorism Watch Officer the other day I got informed that the upper chain of command on the other ship (Ship A) consistently refuses to open their bags up to the compulsory bag check when entering the pier ( that's a 100% , all personnel identification and baggage check). At our entry control point the guard is supplied by both ships. When discussing this with the sentries after watch they informed me that guards from ship A ( the other ship) were directed not to enforce the entry and exit procedures on their upper chain. My upper chain plays by the rules.
I think there is a National defense act and other guidance that states " consent to search" when entering a controlled area but I cant find it and I would like guidance on how to address this situation.
Beside the obvious disregard for posted policy and the poor example being "above the rules" sets, I am more concerned that this practice is dangerous to allow to continue in the name of security as it breeds complacency.
**UPDATE**
I reported it to my XO who in turn referred it to our CO, they agree that it is an issue and are going to handle it at the command level. While we do share security of the pier, we are not the senior ship (SOPA) as such it is more difficult to get them to comply and I have been told to be patient on the issue. We have instructed our sentries that if someone can confirm them as the CO, XO or CMC of the ship them to not press the issue while this is being resolved. We joked about putting their pictures up with a " do not search " sign but recognize that as antagonistic and a further security threat.
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When I correct a superior, it's done respectfully and with discretion. Don't do it in the presence of subordinates. Everyone must be held to the same rules, regulations, and standards. For example, I've known of a base commander to get fined by an MA for violating a base traffic law. The perception can not be given that if you have seniority, you can bend/break rules without consequence. That causes a breakdown in order, discipline, and respect for senior leadership.
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Considering I'm an enlisted dirty blue shirt and I take my job seriously. They give me a gun and tell me to guard the boat. If my CO tells me to search every bag then you will open your bag or you are not coming across my pier. If your CO is worth anything he will back you. If the officers above you are worth anything they will comply. Develop a backbone, and tell them to open their damn bag. If they don't like it they can file a complaint.
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PFC Bradley Campbell
if a bomb gets through or something stolen...it will be YOUR ass. if it is traced to you not following your general orders and specific guard duty orders.truly a situation where you can honestly say,"I was following my orders Sir"
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Send your report up your chain of command, sir, as I believe you are Ship-B. Let your Captain handle the situation, since this is an inter-ship issue and compromises the security of boths Ships A and B.
If your Captain plays by the rules, he will handle it.
If your Captain plays by the rules, he will handle it.
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PO1 (Join to see)
As the old phrase goes, you can always add to the rules, but you cannot take away. In this case looks like someone tries to pull the 'lazy' card by taking away from FPCON. Major security violation and a major whistle-blower. Give them hell!
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