Posted on Mar 10, 2021
Will I lose Advanced Enlisted Rank opportunities if I cancel my Delayed Enlistment?
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Hello Rally Point community. I'm sure as you can tell, im not a member of the Armed Forces and i apologize in advanced if this is not the forum for people like me. I signed my Army Contract last year just as the Covid pandemic was starting, and I was not aware at the time i would be stripped of most of my Junior year and my Senior year because of the threat to my parents of Covid. I feel like I'm about to just lose all of my chances to create memories with my friends and not even have a chance to have a girlfriend long enough for it to count. As my shipping date is June 14th, just two weeks after i would graduate Highschool and be off to join the real world, i am increasingly feeling quite sad about the situation. I am seriously considering cancelling my Delayed Enlistment and working towards getting a waiver for service later (12-18 months). However, i dont believe it would be worth it if i lose my Advanced Enlisted Rank as an E-3 for my four years of JROTC. I can honestly live with losing my ability to chose a lot of other things about my enlistment with having to gain a waiver, but this is different. For age reference i turned 18 last October (2020).
P.S. I also would love any advice for the situation from Veterans/Service Members such as yourselves.
P.S. I also would love any advice for the situation from Veterans/Service Members such as yourselves.
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You're pretty damn young, and the things that are important to you now won't be important in a little while. Of course, that doesn't make them feel less important now, and at your age a school year feels like an eternity. But as you get older time moves faster. The people you know in high school will be doing the same thing they're doing now in a few years. They're all going to get jobs or go to college and focus in their lives. Not everyone can stay at home with their parents and just enjoy life, most people will be working to pay rent, getting their girlfriends pregnant and working to scrape by. If you want to wait a year and watch everyone around you grow apart, if that's what it takes to walk away without regret, then go for it. I left the Army at 21 and spent several years traveling around, being a ski bum, and working in restaurants till I realized I wanted to actually do something with my life other than party. Then I came back in for a second round and have been killing it ever since.
As for your rank, it's garbage. Everyone who joins the Army will make E3 in a year. They'll all make E4 in 18-24 months. Your advancement is worth a few hundred dollars over the course of a year, if that.
As for advice from veterans and service members with previous experiences: your gf will leave you or cheat on you or you'll make a giant mistake and marry her then spend years paying child support for a kid you don't see. By the time you're old enough to drink a beer with you HS friends you won't be able to stand them and you'll be glad you didn't end up like them. Wait to get married till your older. Use your opportunity to move as far away from home as possible and experience a new culture and meet beautiful women, or men or whatever you're into and get a taste of life. Do not buy a Mustang or Dodge Charger on your first enlistment. These bits of knowledge are so common in the Army they are actually Army cliches.
As for your rank, it's garbage. Everyone who joins the Army will make E3 in a year. They'll all make E4 in 18-24 months. Your advancement is worth a few hundred dollars over the course of a year, if that.
As for advice from veterans and service members with previous experiences: your gf will leave you or cheat on you or you'll make a giant mistake and marry her then spend years paying child support for a kid you don't see. By the time you're old enough to drink a beer with you HS friends you won't be able to stand them and you'll be glad you didn't end up like them. Wait to get married till your older. Use your opportunity to move as far away from home as possible and experience a new culture and meet beautiful women, or men or whatever you're into and get a taste of life. Do not buy a Mustang or Dodge Charger on your first enlistment. These bits of knowledge are so common in the Army they are actually Army cliches.
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Caleb Ludolph Keep your certificate from JROTC and whenever the time is right, it should still be valid. I went to basic after my JR yr, AIT two days after graduation, and rather than take my AROTC Nursing Scholarship three hours away from home, I stayed home chasing Amy Purcell. That relationship did not make it past OCT my freshman year of college, I finished that semester with a 1.6 and the next with a 1.4 GPA. I dropped out of college and continued to make many of the same mistakes probably in your future, that is what we boys do. SFC (Join to see)'s advice is great advice, get the hell out of Dodge. It will be rough for a bit but you will make great new friends, get heartbroken by several exotic beautiful women, and if you belong back home, it will be a calling. My Father first went to FT Sam Houston in 1965, and I went there in 1993, 1998, 2003, 2007, 2011, and 2014-2017. In July I will retire there as it has become home for my family. My wife is from Manila and a great woman. Find someone like SFC (Join to see) to mentor you and life will turn out grand.
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Caleb Ludolph
I appreciate you taking time to respond to my question. I have thought a lot about how much i would be losing and how much i would be gaining from discharging. I am still deciding and have added a lot of variable to think about. I will continue to plan as if im going to ship out in June and try to make the most of my time now. As the vaccines are becoming available, my parents are going to loosen up on their restrictions and i might be able to try to make up for the lost time in these couple months. I again thank you.
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Caleb Ludolph Welcome to RallyPoint. This is exactly the forum to ask questions like the one that you are asking. I will let other RallyPoint members answers your question.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
Ted, oh, like you'll be able to stop us, ha-ha!
Oh, wait, aren't you the Admin? So you cou-
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis - I welcomed Caleb to RallyPoint, copied one of the best career advisors, and then let Caleb know that I would let other members provide answers (because I do not have the answer). Is there an issue that you have?
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
Sgt (Join to see) - Nope. I enjoy sharing my knowledge at Rally Point. I hope my inputs have been helpful.
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I’m currently on recruiting duty now and if you were my future solider we would have a nice and long conversation. The feelings you’re having are completely normal. This doesn’t feel like the right time, but is there ever a right time? I strongly believe that too many times in life we wait “for the right time”. Every moment you wait, an opportunity passes you by. Your family is not going anywhere, they will still be there when you want to use your leave days to see them.
Your rank should be the least of your worries. And if coming an as an E3 trumps all of those things and you’ll ship if you lose it. You already have your answer. You want to do this, you’re just scared of the unknown and what’s to come. It’s completely normal, but I say do it man. Take the leap and start the career you set out to start. Don’t make the first desesion that you ever make as an adult one that you go back on. You’ll start a nasty trend that’s hard to get out of. Good luck!
Your rank should be the least of your worries. And if coming an as an E3 trumps all of those things and you’ll ship if you lose it. You already have your answer. You want to do this, you’re just scared of the unknown and what’s to come. It’s completely normal, but I say do it man. Take the leap and start the career you set out to start. Don’t make the first desesion that you ever make as an adult one that you go back on. You’ll start a nasty trend that’s hard to get out of. Good luck!
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