Posted on Feb 26, 2021
Can I wear my MOS pin on my dress uniform if said MOS is no longer my primary MOS?
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I've looked all through AR670-1 and asked my leadership. They don't have any answers for me. The picture posted is the pin I'm talking about. It's for Engineer branch. Thank you for any input
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What you're looking for is called your Regimental Affiliation. The current rules are you may affiliate with any combat arms Regiment you have served in. If you were a support MOS you could also wear the RDI of your Career Field like quartermaster or MI. Your S1 at your first duty station is supposed to affiliate you to that unit on your SRB. But with the exception of a few units, you may affiliate with any unit you have served with, no 4187 needed
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CSM Eric Biggs
Great answer SFC (Join to see), good job giving the correct answer, and explaining it.
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Isn't the regiment insignia a little low, and the name kind of jacked up?
The regulation is you can wear any regimental insignia you are affiliated with and only one at a time. What does affiliated me? I presume MOSQ'd.
When at BOLC (I was prior enlisted MI) we were told we could not wear the QM insignia until we graduated. So brand new 2LT's without a previous MOS wore none. It's a reminder to new officers they aren't qualified soldiers yet. Fine, so I wore my MI one until we graduated.
I checked the reg and kept it in my ASU pocket. I was waiting for the CSM challenge that never came.
A broad interpretation would be you could wear any previous MOS regiment you are qualified for. I did not find a regulation specifying WHICH one you wore and WHEN. A realistic interpretation would be wearing the one you are currently assigned and qualified.
The regulation is you can wear any regimental insignia you are affiliated with and only one at a time. What does affiliated me? I presume MOSQ'd.
When at BOLC (I was prior enlisted MI) we were told we could not wear the QM insignia until we graduated. So brand new 2LT's without a previous MOS wore none. It's a reminder to new officers they aren't qualified soldiers yet. Fine, so I wore my MI one until we graduated.
I checked the reg and kept it in my ASU pocket. I was waiting for the CSM challenge that never came.
A broad interpretation would be you could wear any previous MOS regiment you are qualified for. I did not find a regulation specifying WHICH one you wore and WHEN. A realistic interpretation would be wearing the one you are currently assigned and qualified.
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SGT (Join to see)
It is, sir. This was from AIT. I just took this picture. It's not the uniform I Will be wearing lol. My current MOS doesn't have an RDI. I have a DUI for my BN, though.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SGT (Join to see) - There is always an RDI. Your profile says you are at 1-12 IN. That is 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry REGIMENT. Your DUI *IS* your RDI.
Way back when, in the infantry, you has to submit a 4187 requesting Regimental Affiliation (which was more or less rubber-stamped). I affiliated myself with the 31st Infantry. Then I went MI, and was automatically affiliated with the MI Regiment. And I stayed MI affiliated until they changed the rules and allowed Soldiers to wear any Regiment they were affiliated with, and went proudly back to my Polar Bear.
If your MOS (I am guessing 19D) does not have a single Branch Regiment (like MI Does), you likely still have to go do a 4187 and request to be officially and specifically affiliated with a specific regiment. S1 can give you better details (it has been too long for me, and I know this is a shifting landscape). However, as a Cav Scout, I would recommend NOT trying to affiliate yourself with an Infantry Regiment. A) there is no guarantee the Infantry Regiment will approve it (you being a Cav Trooper) and B) future Cav units (more specifically, individuals WITHIN future Cav units) may look down upon that. (IF you ain't Cav, you ain't shit... so why would you want to officially affiliate with the Infantry?)
Regardless of ALL of that, you were officially affiliated with the Engineer Regiment, you can continue to wear that RDI if you choose.
Way back when, in the infantry, you has to submit a 4187 requesting Regimental Affiliation (which was more or less rubber-stamped). I affiliated myself with the 31st Infantry. Then I went MI, and was automatically affiliated with the MI Regiment. And I stayed MI affiliated until they changed the rules and allowed Soldiers to wear any Regiment they were affiliated with, and went proudly back to my Polar Bear.
If your MOS (I am guessing 19D) does not have a single Branch Regiment (like MI Does), you likely still have to go do a 4187 and request to be officially and specifically affiliated with a specific regiment. S1 can give you better details (it has been too long for me, and I know this is a shifting landscape). However, as a Cav Scout, I would recommend NOT trying to affiliate yourself with an Infantry Regiment. A) there is no guarantee the Infantry Regiment will approve it (you being a Cav Trooper) and B) future Cav units (more specifically, individuals WITHIN future Cav units) may look down upon that. (IF you ain't Cav, you ain't shit... so why would you want to officially affiliate with the Infantry?)
Regardless of ALL of that, you were officially affiliated with the Engineer Regiment, you can continue to wear that RDI if you choose.
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SSG Bill McCoy
We didn't have such MOS related pins/badges except for collar brass. My Secondary MOS was medical and I never gave a thought about wearing anything related to it. Then again, we didn't have Regimental pins/badges back then. Our shoulder patches were always the command we were serving ... Med Cmd at Walter Reed, ASA and FORSCOM for example.
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After some research I've found that this is called an RDI (Regimental Distinctive Insignia).
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