Posted on May 13, 2015
How do you feel about "rehabilitation" for terror suspects?
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I heard this story on NPR this afternoon. Authorities in Minneapolis are actually considering releasing five terror suspects who wanted to join ISIL (but were caught) ... Release them to a halfway house "rehabilitation" program. They've already done this with one would-be terrorist.
The NPR journalist said that we can't "incarcerate our way out of this problem." I say that if you are caught attempting to join ISIS, you deserve to go to prison for a good long time.
What do you think?
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/05/12/terror-suspects
The NPR journalist said that we can't "incarcerate our way out of this problem." I say that if you are caught attempting to join ISIS, you deserve to go to prison for a good long time.
What do you think?
http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/05/12/terror-suspects
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Other than attempting to leave the country to join ISIS, they haven't really committed any crime. The best approach would be to work with them and try to create some community advocates than lock them up and throw away the key.
That said, watch them like a hawk until you're satisfied these kids have moved beyond the youthful need for meaning that surpasses all rationality.
That said, watch them like a hawk until you're satisfied these kids have moved beyond the youthful need for meaning that surpasses all rationality.
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Actually their parents should have been watching them like a hawk. If they had, none of this would have happened. We've all gone thru the youthfull need for meaning and at the same time knew and understood the difference between right and right. These kids are all legally adults; able to vote; live their lives out from under their parents as adults; NOW they are finding out what it's like to be treated as an adult. Life is tough, but it's even tougher when you're stupid enough to do something that you know is wrong and can get you into serious trouble.
They're learning a hard lesson already; much more effective than some toubhy feely community advocate would be able to do. In fact one of them was locked up because he didn't follow the rules of the half way house his ass had been in.
Community Advocates/Orgaizers...what ever you want to call them have their place and some do some great things for young people. Those that learn get a step up...those that don't ....are getting locked up. For the offense they are charged with...keep them locked up until trial. IF guilty...lock them up.....if not guilty...they may still not like it, but they've learned a tough lesson.....maybe....they may just get out there and continue on with what they tried to do the first time .........and be successful.
They're learning a hard lesson already; much more effective than some toubhy feely community advocate would be able to do. In fact one of them was locked up because he didn't follow the rules of the half way house his ass had been in.
Community Advocates/Orgaizers...what ever you want to call them have their place and some do some great things for young people. Those that learn get a step up...those that don't ....are getting locked up. For the offense they are charged with...keep them locked up until trial. IF guilty...lock them up.....if not guilty...they may still not like it, but they've learned a tough lesson.....maybe....they may just get out there and continue on with what they tried to do the first time .........and be successful.
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The article details the judge using actual common sense.
They aren't convicted of anything. They aren't actual criminals yet. They are accused, yes, but in the eyes of the law, they are innocent until proven guilty.
With the charges against them, which don't actually appear to be "actions" or even "attempted actions" (just a desire to join), this seems reasonable.
The "rehabilitation" in this case, is not turning "stupid kids" into actual terrorists.
They aren't convicted of anything. They aren't actual criminals yet. They are accused, yes, but in the eyes of the law, they are innocent until proven guilty.
With the charges against them, which don't actually appear to be "actions" or even "attempted actions" (just a desire to join), this seems reasonable.
The "rehabilitation" in this case, is not turning "stupid kids" into actual terrorists.
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Okie doke, Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS. I submit that if they wanted to join and were arrested for that once, there's a very good chance that they will try again, maybe from their halfway house accommodations.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
CW5 (Join to see) I submit that were arrested, not convicted, and keeping someone in prison is a great way to embitter them to actually become a criminal. Surround someone with the dregs of society and they will adapt accordingly.
I'm making no judgement on their guilt or innocence until they are actually accorded a trial as is their Right. Just because a US Prosecutor calls someone a terrorist doesn't make it so.
The article doesn't say they are getting bail, just being considered. It does say the other person who was granted it, had it revoked. It's not like we don't have ankle monitoring devices or a 'parole' system for cases just like this.
I'm making no judgement on their guilt or innocence until they are actually accorded a trial as is their Right. Just because a US Prosecutor calls someone a terrorist doesn't make it so.
The article doesn't say they are getting bail, just being considered. It does say the other person who was granted it, had it revoked. It's not like we don't have ankle monitoring devices or a 'parole' system for cases just like this.
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Lock em up. That's good, but someone then pays for their upkeep. I say we find an uninhabited island in the middle of absolutely nowhere, give em a year's worth of food and forget about em.
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Maj Kim Patterson
Pretty generous Lt Col D L, let's meet in the middle and give them 6 months and no can opener
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