Posted on Jul 24, 2020
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I have met many people I served with who have degrees in: interdisciplinary studies, weapons of mass destruction, counter terrorism, English, psychology from online degree mills.
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I don’t think an English degree is useless. Have you even seen how some of our senior enlisted leaders write. Young officers too. So what degrees do you see as not being useless? My daughter has an electrical engineering degree and is an artillery officer. My History degree got me a one way ticket to flight school. The army thrives in diversity. We don’t put all the square pegs in the square holes.
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PO1 Yeoman
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Now the SECDEF is promoting a Bachelors in WOKE military 101.
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1SG Brian Adams
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You omitted Senior Officers....hmmm?
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PVT Michael Davis
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It is through our diversity that we overcome our adversaries. Their monolithic thinking encouraged by their political masters is a very important part of the reason we overcome ALL ENEMIES, Foreign and Domestic (Trumpites.)
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SFC Jim Freshour
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PVT Michael Davis - AHHH, the old "diversity is our strength" line. What a load of shit. Did you learn that in your queer studies classes?
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Maj John Bell
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For the same reason so many civilians have useless degrees.

They go to college with no idea of what they want to do in life, and they've never had to bust their hump in a hardworking skilled trades job, or done factory work. Then someone tells them that a degree in Romance Languages, or Philosophy, or Art Appreciation is their ticket (for maybe 1% in those studies it is.)

Best thing my Dad ever did for his two boys. At age 14 we had to start paying room and board, buy our own cloths, school supplies, and entertainment. I never drove a car that belonged to Dad, and Dad did not pay my auto insurance.

Back then there weren't many jobs in Tucson for healthy juvenile boys during the summer, that weren't essentially "sweating your ass off in the red hot Arizona sun. By the time I was 18, I already had a skilled trades job, and growing side business of my own, with 3 part-time employees, that would have provided a respectable blue collar lifestyle for me, a wife and a couple of kids." Fortunately, I didn't have the wife or the kids yet. But I knew I wanted more than the red hot Arizona sun.

PS Dad invested the money, and gave it to us on our 18th birthday. Then, he gave us notice that we had one week to move out after HS graduation.
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Im not a parent yet, Major, but youve just given me some parenting inspiration. I want to prevent my kids from making the same financial mistakes as me. I was the guy pissing away all his checks in high school and even in the military. Now i have a budget, and will be living within my means because i want financial freedom. Im a little late to the show, but im working toward it. Thank you for sharing your story sir.
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Maj John Bell
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PO3 (Join to see) - The single most important thing you can teach your kids is

***DO NOT GO INTO DEBT*** for fun/nice to have/non-necessity items. If there is a great deal now that requires debt, there will be another great deal when they can pay cash, out of pocket.

I can't tell you how many of my peers suffered from a situation the interest on unnecessary debt was one of the top 1-3 monthly household expenses.
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Maj John Bell absolutely, I've found out about debt the hard way. Once im debt free, i refuse to ever have consumer debt again. On another note, its a small world being that you grew up and hour northwest of where i grew up (Sierra Vista, AZ)
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
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Maj John Bell - .....
MAJOR?..... I'll Be 80 Years Of Age, on 06/29/2024.
I Applied For And Received My FIRST CREDIT CARD,About 3 Years Ago....
And ONLY Because Need It To Make Purchases On Line.
And All Of My Life ~ As Confirmed By Dunn & Bradstreet, And To MY Surprise As Well,
I've NEVER As Much As Made A Late Payment, And That INCLUDES 27 Years Of Being In Business. ~ Self Employed... .Improper Use Of Credit And Credit Cards Can Be A Real Killer To Ones Standard Of Living; ~ It's Best To AVOID It. ~ They're Seldom Necessary
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Not just in the eyes of our Army but the eyes of our society as well, a degree puts you above your peers without one, regardless of what its in. In my opinion, this happens because a degree shows a dedication to something and the base skill level that comes with completing a college course. I have my first degree and I am working on my second at this very moment. I cannot explain the time management skills that I have sharpened and learned from doing this. I juggle being a recruiter full time, a family with two babies, a side business, friendships and my college all at once. Doing so and being successful teaches extreme time management. That is a trait that any leader at any level should have. Simply just one example, but IMO that is why. Its more than a degree, its a commitment to bettering yourself and being a soldier past the typical 9:00 to 5:00 mindset.
A1C Jennifer Israel
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SSG (Verify To See) well said!
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A1C Jennifer Israel
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PO3 Dale S. Getting your degree shows more discipline and dedication!!!
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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PO3 Dale S. - Sgt Tom Verify might have been condescending in your eyes however you did not deny his original statement. I remember once having the same attitude towards a degree as you then I completed both a BSN and an MSHS and now agree with SSG Clint Underhill 100%.
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It’s always easier to downplay something when you are on the outs looking in. MAJ Byron Oyler

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