Posted on Nov 15, 2019
Can I attempt to get my discharge upgraded, even though I was discharged 2 years ago?
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I was discharged on October 29, 2017. My discharge is general under honorable conditions (EPTS). I subluxated two ribs and was taken to sick hall immediately. The captain there said the injury was too severe and told my drill sergeant that I had to go to he ER.
He doctors at the hospital couldn’t do much besides drug me up and put a brace on my chest.
After a couple weeks of going to physical therapy, there was no progress that was made. My physical therapist then recommended me to the chiropractor. The chiropractor tried to pop it back in place but was unable to do so. My estimated recovery time was 6-8 months. I was to spend my time in C-95 (the medical unit). I had no communication with my family (I could send mail, but couldn’t receive mail) and I became quite depressed with the situation.
After a few weeks, I started to lose hope. Being very gullible and upset with the situation, I accepted an EPTS discharge. I regret this decision, because even now, I have problems with my chest (lifting heavy things, moving my body a certain way, etc.).
Do you think it’d be possible to get my discharge upgraded?
He doctors at the hospital couldn’t do much besides drug me up and put a brace on my chest.
After a couple weeks of going to physical therapy, there was no progress that was made. My physical therapist then recommended me to the chiropractor. The chiropractor tried to pop it back in place but was unable to do so. My estimated recovery time was 6-8 months. I was to spend my time in C-95 (the medical unit). I had no communication with my family (I could send mail, but couldn’t receive mail) and I became quite depressed with the situation.
After a few weeks, I started to lose hope. Being very gullible and upset with the situation, I accepted an EPTS discharge. I regret this decision, because even now, I have problems with my chest (lifting heavy things, moving my body a certain way, etc.).
Do you think it’d be possible to get my discharge upgraded?
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Fort Sill
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
Injuries
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I am guessing you want to upgrade the discharge to say there was no pre-existing condition? That’s going to be a tough task if you signed the paperwork agreeing to it. You signed a legal document admitting it was pre existing.
You might have a shot at filing a claim on the grounds you had a pre existing condition and a service incident aggravated the condition (still a tough sale for benefits).
If you are trying to get compensation for it then you should go speak with a veterans service rep and then you can request a copy of your medical records and go through the process of filing a claim.
You might have a shot at filing a claim on the grounds you had a pre existing condition and a service incident aggravated the condition (still a tough sale for benefits).
If you are trying to get compensation for it then you should go speak with a veterans service rep and then you can request a copy of your medical records and go through the process of filing a claim.
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So, after numerous appointments with my chiropractor, I was sent to speak with the major at the on-base medical facility (sorry, I can’t think of the proper terminology). After meeting with him, I told him how I was starting to become depressed and that I didn’t want to spend the entire 6-8 months in the recovery unit. He said that there was a quick way to get out and following my recovery, I’d be allowed to re-enlist. Of course, the easier quick option that I ended up taking, was signing the EPTS paperwork. So I’m currently looking to get my discharge upgraded to a general under honorable conditions or a medical discharge.
Essentially, I’d like to find an alternative to paying $100 for every physical therapy session that I take. I’d like to be able to go to the VA hospital when necessary.
Essentially, I’d like to find an alternative to paying $100 for every physical therapy session that I take. I’d like to be able to go to the VA hospital when necessary.
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PV2 (Join to see) - The Doctors determined that your condition was pre-existing based on X-rays and possibly other tests. You signed paperwork that said the condition was pre-existing. How can you dispute the tests that were done and your signed statement? What are you leaving out of your story?
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Sgt (Join to see) Ironically, I hadn’t been X-rayed on post one time. When the injury first occurred, I was sent to an off-post hospital. There was no testing that was done and in regards to the injury, it was very obvious that the injury had just occurred, according to the Major, the physical therapist, the ER staff, and the chiropractor.
Now, the paperwork, yes, I do accept the responsibility that I should have took the long road (which was offered to me, doctor said that I could stay in C-95th and recover, or be sent home and comeback with a waiver stating that I was healed - RE-3). But I was younger, naive, and just wanted to get home. So, I signed whatever and did whatever I had to do to get home, and that is why I’m here looking for guidance.
Now, the paperwork, yes, I do accept the responsibility that I should have took the long road (which was offered to me, doctor said that I could stay in C-95th and recover, or be sent home and comeback with a waiver stating that I was healed - RE-3). But I was younger, naive, and just wanted to get home. So, I signed whatever and did whatever I had to do to get home, and that is why I’m here looking for guidance.
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What is the RE Code, disposition. Code, and characterization of the discharge. Most IET discharges are uncharacterized because of duration.
There are resources at the RP Topic RE Code, including upgrading discharges. https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/re-code/about
There are resources at the RP Topic RE Code, including upgrading discharges. https://www.rallypoint.com/topics/re-code/about
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So are they saying the injury existed prior to service? If you agreed to the terms of the discharge, then you are going to have one hell of a fight to prove the injury was service related. I will say a lot of individuals who get discharged out of IET are usually EPTS related.
If the injury occurred during active service outside of IET, then you would have underwent a MEB and received a VA disability rating, which from my understanding, you do not receive from injuries that occur in basic without applying for the rating.
The GUHC discharge is not saying you did anything wrong, all it is saying is that you did not do enough to deserve an honorable discharge.
If the injury occurred during active service outside of IET, then you would have underwent a MEB and received a VA disability rating, which from my understanding, you do not receive from injuries that occur in basic without applying for the rating.
The GUHC discharge is not saying you did anything wrong, all it is saying is that you did not do enough to deserve an honorable discharge.
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PV2 (Join to see) and unless you can prove that the injury was a direct result of training, there’s really not a fight there either. The shitty situation you in calls in to question how you obtained the injury in the first place because there aren’t that many things that you could do during basic that would cause that type of injury
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SSG Dave Johnston
SSG (Join to see) - Wanna bet? refer to FM 7-22, and Ft Sill is 1-Stop combined IET training for ADA, FA, and PVT Keller never did inform us what MOS he'd signed up for.
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I’m super confused on what you are trying to say in this response. You’re telling me to look at 7-22 for. I can say that nothing in 7-22 would cause an injury that severe. And ass for the second half of your response, what the hell are you talking about. SSG Dave Johnston
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SSG Dave Johnston
SSG (Join to see) - As to the first; FM 7-22, Physical readiness training manual, even with warm-up stretch's one can hurt them self. Second; PVT Kyler was conducting his IET at FT. Sill(see tag), though PVT Kyler never informed us of his choice of MOS, if it was in either Air Defense Artillery or Field Artillery that a combined Basic and Advanced individual training at Ft. Sill, hence 1-Stop TNG. Humping cables for the Patriot, or humping rounds for any artillery piece require a lot of lifting and twisting movements. both are conducive to causing the injury. If the injury was preexisting he'd be in pain humping his initial issue out of CIF.
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