Posted on Feb 26, 2015
Is there a good civilian version of the M16A2 to get range time with?
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In the Air Force if you aren't Security Forces or in Special Operations you don't do much qualifying with firearms. I'm thinking about trying to spend some additional range time on my own dime to try to qualify for Marksman with the M16 and was wondering what the recommended civilian version of the rifle to use for this is. Also, shouId bother investing in buying one or try looking for a range that allows rentals and carries an M16 or civilian version?
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
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well, if you do, you'd better hurry. new word today that ATF is getting instructions to ban 5.56 ammo:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2015/02/24/why-is-the-atf-moving-to-ban-common-rifle-ammo/
I hope it's not true.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2015/02/24/why-is-the-atf-moving-to-ban-common-rifle-ammo/
I hope it's not true.
Why Is The ATF Moving To Ban Common Rifle Ammo?
Gun-rights groups are in an uproar over an ammunition ban proposed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). The ATF says it wants to ban M855 ball ammunition, a .223 (or 5.56 mm) rifle bullet that has been used by American citizens for decades. The ATF says [...]
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So finding a M16A2 to rent is going to be hard. Just not that many out to rent. The fundamentals are the same. Just get something as close as you can and get out and shoot.
Buying vs. renting can be tricky. I would say rent until you are ready to make the plunge. Have a secure place to keep it, know how to safely use it, and know the laws where you live. Black guns are tricky in the lib states for sure. God forbid you get caught with a 30 round mag in California. They will lock you up and make you eat granola till you swear your allegiance to socialism.
Buying vs. renting can be tricky. I would say rent until you are ready to make the plunge. Have a secure place to keep it, know how to safely use it, and know the laws where you live. Black guns are tricky in the lib states for sure. God forbid you get caught with a 30 round mag in California. They will lock you up and make you eat granola till you swear your allegiance to socialism.
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TSgt (Join to see)
So . . . invest in a can of spraypaint? =D
Thanks for the advice SGT William Howell, I think that's what I will be doing and some of the other members have given some good models to look for in terms of trying to rent etc.
Thanks for the advice SGT William Howell, I think that's what I will be doing and some of the other members have given some good models to look for in terms of trying to rent etc.
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There are lots of AR variants out there you can buy. Some of the nicer ranges will rent a rifle too so you can use one or two before you buy.
There will be a lot of recommendations on varying platforms/manuacturers. I qualified on the Marine Corps rifle range 3 times and shot Expert all three times so I like the platform and am pretty familiar with it.
I chose the Sig Sauer Patrol 516. Why? Reputation/quality of Sig. I also liked the piston system in the rifle vs gas in most AR type rifles. The rifle shoots cleaner (as gas is not dumped into the upper receieved on to the BCG. I have found it to be highly reliable and to shoot well.
Not to say many others are not very good and will do the trick. The Sig is not the cheapest one you can get either. Take your time to pick one out. Just as important as the rifle is the correct shooting techniques. Not sure what they teach in the Air Force these days. Do you guy know which end the round come out of? :).
There will be a lot of recommendations on varying platforms/manuacturers. I qualified on the Marine Corps rifle range 3 times and shot Expert all three times so I like the platform and am pretty familiar with it.
I chose the Sig Sauer Patrol 516. Why? Reputation/quality of Sig. I also liked the piston system in the rifle vs gas in most AR type rifles. The rifle shoots cleaner (as gas is not dumped into the upper receieved on to the BCG. I have found it to be highly reliable and to shoot well.
Not to say many others are not very good and will do the trick. The Sig is not the cheapest one you can get either. Take your time to pick one out. Just as important as the rifle is the correct shooting techniques. Not sure what they teach in the Air Force these days. Do you guy know which end the round come out of? :).
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Cpl Jeff N.
That is important to know. Best of luck. You will get lots of advice as MAJ (Join to see) mentioned somewhere between $900 and $1400 is a good price range. You can spend more but I wouldn't spend any less.
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