Posted on Feb 25, 2015
"Kid" in Court the other day (probably 18-19 years old, is pending conviction for two misdemeanor charges.
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The young man tells the Judge (with his public defenders support) that he is planning on Joining the Marines. He stated his Marine recruiter told him he won't further the application/enlistment process until the pending court matter is done. My questions to you all-I was never a recruiter or a Marine-
1. Will the Marines accept someone with a misdo conviction, that conviction being resisting arrest (148(a) Cali PC)? They plan on dropping the battery (242 PC) charges.
2. Can you join if on a form of probation/Court supervision? (I think no)
3. The public defender, former AF, tried to tell the Judge the military offers a slough of alcohol counseling and mental health if ordered to do so. On what planet would we have time to treat a boot for that?! They force out vested troops for alcohol problems... (Force shaping)
I have my personal opinions. Like I don't want a guy representing our country that can't even follow the orders of a Police Officer. What will he do when a DI yells at him? Or his Sgt gives him an order?
1. Will the Marines accept someone with a misdo conviction, that conviction being resisting arrest (148(a) Cali PC)? They plan on dropping the battery (242 PC) charges.
2. Can you join if on a form of probation/Court supervision? (I think no)
3. The public defender, former AF, tried to tell the Judge the military offers a slough of alcohol counseling and mental health if ordered to do so. On what planet would we have time to treat a boot for that?! They force out vested troops for alcohol problems... (Force shaping)
I have my personal opinions. Like I don't want a guy representing our country that can't even follow the orders of a Police Officer. What will he do when a DI yells at him? Or his Sgt gives him an order?
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All legality aside I had a buddy that was able to get in after having some breaking and entering charge or something like that. I remember hearing that just about anything can have a waiver granted for enlistment. Illegal drugs, medical stuff, etc. It all depends on how much your recruiter works for you, if the military is in need of the job you are hoping to get, and of course the seriousness of whatever it is.
I believe that you can not join the military (any branch) while on probation, but the officers/judges might be willing to reduce your "sentence" or end it as time served if they are willing. That is all really just educated guessing.
As far as alcohol counseling, if he makes it far enough to go to boot camp, it would be pretty much cold turkey I think. I highly doubt he would be taken off each Sunday to AA or to see the chaplain. Once he leaves boot camp, and maybe initial training, he might be taken somewhere for something, but I doubt it would happen before then.
I think it all really boils down to two things. First the judge or probation officer thinks he learned his lesson or that the military might be good for him and second that the military thinks the same thing.
I believe that you can not join the military (any branch) while on probation, but the officers/judges might be willing to reduce your "sentence" or end it as time served if they are willing. That is all really just educated guessing.
As far as alcohol counseling, if he makes it far enough to go to boot camp, it would be pretty much cold turkey I think. I highly doubt he would be taken off each Sunday to AA or to see the chaplain. Once he leaves boot camp, and maybe initial training, he might be taken somewhere for something, but I doubt it would happen before then.
I think it all really boils down to two things. First the judge or probation officer thinks he learned his lesson or that the military might be good for him and second that the military thinks the same thing.
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TSgt Jackie Jones
I know it has happened in the past- but I'm out now- and thought the military was being more "picky" with who gets in... This particular fella hasn't even taken the ASVAB yet. And when I spoke to him, he did not seem super stellar
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