Posted on May 5, 2019
What is the timeframe and likelihood of my 368 conditional release being approved (New York NG 11B)?
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I'm currently in RSP for the New York national guard. I am shipping to basic training in July. I recently decided I would rather go active duty, but I already signed a contract so it looks like a 368 is my only option now.
I enlisted in 11B with a $20k signing bonus (obviously an understrength MOS, not good for my odds, I know). If I file a 368 as soon as or 6 months or so after I return from IADT, is there any way for me to freeze the first payment of my bonus to increase the odds of the 368 being approved? With my MOS likely being under strength, do I have basically no shot with a 368, or is there a chance?
Thanks.
I enlisted in 11B with a $20k signing bonus (obviously an understrength MOS, not good for my odds, I know). If I file a 368 as soon as or 6 months or so after I return from IADT, is there any way for me to freeze the first payment of my bonus to increase the odds of the 368 being approved? With my MOS likely being under strength, do I have basically no shot with a 368, or is there a chance?
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PFC (Join to see), have you....at any time....spoken with your Recruiter in regards to your decision to want to go Active Duty? But...here is what I know on 368s and bonuses:
1) If you are approved to transfer to Active Duty, you will lose all remaining Bonus Money and (HIGHLY) probably have to pay back any amount of bonus already received. If your Bonus is tied to your MOS and your State....yea....you gonna pay that back.
2) Even if you file a 368 six months after you get back from AIT, at no time are ANY of your Commanders at ANY level required to approve your transfer. Any and all could say NO and then you are right back where you began.
My best advice, for starters, is to just start talking with your Recruiter to get all the up to date information. They are the SMEs, after all. Another piece of advice is to just sit back and go through the next yrs of motions to ensure that you don't lose any of that 20K nor have to pay back any of that 20K.
1) If you are approved to transfer to Active Duty, you will lose all remaining Bonus Money and (HIGHLY) probably have to pay back any amount of bonus already received. If your Bonus is tied to your MOS and your State....yea....you gonna pay that back.
2) Even if you file a 368 six months after you get back from AIT, at no time are ANY of your Commanders at ANY level required to approve your transfer. Any and all could say NO and then you are right back where you began.
My best advice, for starters, is to just start talking with your Recruiter to get all the up to date information. They are the SMEs, after all. Another piece of advice is to just sit back and go through the next yrs of motions to ensure that you don't lose any of that 20K nor have to pay back any of that 20K.
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I have talked to him, and he is convinced I can get a release and I should stick it out. The active duty recruiter tells me the complete opposite: that I'll never get the release and my best bet is to refuse to ship to basic training so I can enlist with him instead.
It's like having an angel and a devil on my shoulders, and I don't know who to listen to.
Thank you for your response SSG.
It's like having an angel and a devil on my shoulders, and I don't know who to listen to.
Thank you for your response SSG.
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PFC (Join to see) - If you refuse to ship......You will get a discharge, yes....but you could also end up receiving an RE-Code 4 where you won't be allowed back in.
So you have a choice to make: Ship out to training and stick it out for the next 6 years or not ship and roll the dice to see if you permanently screw yourself over on every getting back in. Your life. Your choice. Up to you.
So you have a choice to make: Ship out to training and stick it out for the next 6 years or not ship and roll the dice to see if you permanently screw yourself over on every getting back in. Your life. Your choice. Up to you.
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Yes, he doesn't seem to be of any help, he only tells me that my best bet is to get a conditional release after basic training, which apparently there is a slim chance of having approved. He isn't keen on the idea of trying to get me released before I ship.
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I see this question over and over again. once you have contracted with the National Guard you will be required to complete that contract. You may have a chance of being released to the National Guard but it's only if your command allows you. That's why they call it a conditional release. Usually on your initial contract they will not release you. Although you have not encouraged any obligation necessarily because you haven't shipped but this is something that you need to talk to your recruiter about. If you signed a contract you need to understand what that means.
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