Posted on May 18, 2018
Have any former U.S. Navy, USCG officers on RP successfully applied former active duty sea time to the Inland "Six Pack" license?
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So here's the deal. I've racked up some pretty good sea time while on AD, much of it on the bridge as a qualified OOD. I'm looking into the experience requirements for the OUPV, inland certification (i.e. the "Six Pack") which is pretty much the bare-minimum one needs for any small boat skipper job inland (think tour boats, emergency tow, etc.)
The CG requires 90 of the total 360, 4-hr days to be within the last three years (which really is hard to do...but not impossible).
My question is, has anyone successfully applied former sea time based of their own records, without CO signature or a formal "at sea" form?
My ultimate goal is to give myself the "mins" for looking for part-time, seasonal crew work in the next 36 months (kinda looking for the next big adventure!)
The CG requires 90 of the total 360, 4-hr days to be within the last three years (which really is hard to do...but not impossible).
My question is, has anyone successfully applied former sea time based of their own records, without CO signature or a formal "at sea" form?
My ultimate goal is to give myself the "mins" for looking for part-time, seasonal crew work in the next 36 months (kinda looking for the next big adventure!)
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So Greg...you've got me pretty motivated here. My follow up research indicated a few things that I was hoping you might be able to clarify:
1. Transcript of Sea Service: I'm assuming the CG would need something beyond my "Yep, I sure did spend all that time at sea, and a lot of it on the bridge!"...Is that something I'm going to realistically obtain from PERS nearly fourteen years after the fact? Did you just call 'em up and start hammering?
2. Time Period: I'm guessing that "90 days w/i the last three years" still applies, even if someone's got nearly all the qualifying days at sea from the Navy, correct?
3. Building time: Obviously a "Six Pack" ain't the big enchilada here, but it's kinda the "entry level" ticket for a lot of the inland jobs I might consider. If I build time on my own vessel, does a standard CG-719S apply, or do I need something more? I mean, at that point, I'm basically "certifying" my own time, right?
1. Transcript of Sea Service: I'm assuming the CG would need something beyond my "Yep, I sure did spend all that time at sea, and a lot of it on the bridge!"...Is that something I'm going to realistically obtain from PERS nearly fourteen years after the fact? Did you just call 'em up and start hammering?
2. Time Period: I'm guessing that "90 days w/i the last three years" still applies, even if someone's got nearly all the qualifying days at sea from the Navy, correct?
3. Building time: Obviously a "Six Pack" ain't the big enchilada here, but it's kinda the "entry level" ticket for a lot of the inland jobs I might consider. If I build time on my own vessel, does a standard CG-719S apply, or do I need something more? I mean, at that point, I'm basically "certifying" my own time, right?
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SN Greg Wright
LCDR (Join to see) - Sorry Commander, you didn't tag me so I didn't see this until just now.
1. When I got mine 20 years ago I only had to show my DD214, and they calculated my sea time from the assignments on it -- I assume you can still do that today, but maybe it's different now. Best thing is to call your local CG center and ask, I think. My experience may no longer be germane.
2. Yep.
3. That's the right form for the six pack. If you're working for someone else, they'll give you one. If you're doing it yourself, it's like a pilot or truck driver's log: you just do it yourself. That said, with all your sea time I'm pretty sure you'll qualify for a more robust license. Here's some good info as well, but honestly the best thing at this point, I think, is to call 'em.
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Oh, well shit, I should have read the thing myself: seems dd214 isn't enough anymore. You'll need your History of Assignments as well it seems.
https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/NMC/pdfs/brochures/military_brochure.pdf
1. When I got mine 20 years ago I only had to show my DD214, and they calculated my sea time from the assignments on it -- I assume you can still do that today, but maybe it's different now. Best thing is to call your local CG center and ask, I think. My experience may no longer be germane.
2. Yep.
3. That's the right form for the six pack. If you're working for someone else, they'll give you one. If you're doing it yourself, it's like a pilot or truck driver's log: you just do it yourself. That said, with all your sea time I'm pretty sure you'll qualify for a more robust license. Here's some good info as well, but honestly the best thing at this point, I think, is to call 'em.
EDIT:
Oh, well shit, I should have read the thing myself: seems dd214 isn't enough anymore. You'll need your History of Assignments as well it seems.
https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/NMC/pdfs/brochures/military_brochure.pdf
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Thanks Greg-Lots of good info I wish I had at hand back in 2004 :)
Going to contact CG and see where it goes from there.
Going to contact CG and see where it goes from there.
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SN Greg Wright
LCDR (Join to see) - Awesome. I'd be interested in the outcome! You'll have to do a lifeboatman test, so I'll definitely want to know if you sucked as bad as I did! :)
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