Does 35T AIT have a polygraph requirement?

2022-06-18T12:15:47-04:00

I am currently considering a reclassification to 35T. I have the necessary security credentials, however I am unsure about doing a CI poly during an AIT. The DA-PAM 611-21 does not list this requirement but I have been unable to verify that there is no poly. Of course, I have no issue with doing the test outside of AIT, but I cannot risk an unsuccessful re-enlistment contract, if I do not know. Does anyone have any insight into this?

Response by SSG Laurie Mullen made Jun 18 at 2022 12:46 PM

2022-06-18T12:46:50-04:00

I don't know about the situation that you're talking about, but I did have to take one for my law enforcement job. The tester went over all of the questions a couple of times and, if I remember right, gave you a chance to explain a question that you might not be comfortable answering. The thing that I was surprised about the whole thing is that when I was hooked up and he asked the questions I still felt a slight jolt of adrenaline even for something as simple as my name.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 18 at 2022 1:03 PM

2022-06-18T13:03:42-04:00

It's all very simple. You either want the MOS or don't. If you're not willing to gamble, then don't pick up the dice.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 18 at 2022 1:50 PM

2022-06-18T13:50:41-04:00

By the time you graduate AIT you need to be TS/SCI cleared with No poly.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 18 at 2022 2:08 PM

2022-06-18T14:08:04-04:00

It's a Counter Intelligence polygraph. The only way you're going to fail a CI poly is if you have been supporting terrorist organizations, or organizations bent on overthrowing the government. In which case.... MI probably isn't for you

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Jun 21 at 2022 12:47 PM

2022-06-21T12:47:35-04:00

The CI poly simply asks you about any foreign associations you have. They ask specific questions. The lifestyle poly is where they can ask you anything and everything ever in your life.

I had to take a CI poly when I went to Cybercom (I'm a 35F) because we were working in the NSA buildings. It wasn't that bad, especially if you have never had any foreign contacts, associates, etc.

I'm not sure if it's required for 35Ts to have a CI poly - but when I was the Corps SSO, I got requests from the 35Ts in G2 that they needed one because the systems they had to maintain at that level. But I'm not sure if all 35Ts require a poly or not. That was the first time I worked with any of them.

I don't think the AIT has a requirement for it but if you do, again it's not hard.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 7 at 2022 2:28 PM

2022-07-07T14:28:08-04:00

BLUF, No. With that being said, after graduation you may be in an INSCOM or similar requirement, which may include the need for a CI Poly to perform that work. If you do not pass, you'll still probably be attached to that unit, just not in operations.

More than likely, you will never take a CI Poly.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2022 2:13 AM

2022-08-11T02:13:38-04:00

You don’t need a poly to be a 35t

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2022 2:22 AM

2022-10-23T02:22:19-04:00

No and yes. The whole point of a CI poly is for NSA access, NSA privilege access, and COMSEC. If you can’t get a CI poly be ready to be reassigned.