Posted on Jan 28, 2018
If my losing unit authorized PTDY, and my PCS leave and PTDY is all on the same DA 31, do I sign in to my new unit before I take the 10 days?
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No you don't, but usually you will have to go to the housing office of your gaining installation to have them sign on your leave form since permissive TDY is for the purpose of house hunting. Or else you can sign in at your unit and take it then
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Bottom line is, you must report to your new unit NO LATER THAN the report listed on the PCS orders. Losing unit can not authorize any leave or PTDY beyond the report date. Go to the housing office on your gaining installation to have them stamp the date you went in. That will start the clock on your 10 days PTDY, but again it can not exceed the report date. If you sign in early to the gaining unit and do NOT use your PTDY, then the gaining unit can authorize PTDY. Hope that helps, if not send me an email on global and I’ll see if Incam further help clarify.
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In case it matters after my 10 days of ptdy I will still have about 5 days before my reporting date. So I wouldn’t miss that.
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Someone screwed up on your DA-31 then, unless that five days will be taken as chargeable leave. I say this because someone has to be responsible for you at all times. The time between you signing out of your unit and signing into your new unit, your losing unit is technically still responsible for you, and can technically still either recall you or do UCMJ actions. When you get your PTDY stamp from the gaining installation, you technically fall under the garrison. However, those five days you are in legal limbo. When your PTDY ends, garrison no longer has responsibility for you, having assumed you have signed into your gaining unit. But for five days, no unit is legally responsible for you. If you get into some type of legal trouble, have medical issues, etc., everyone will deny responsibility for you, except for Big Army.
So according to regs, your last day of PTDY should coincide with your report date. Your entire leadership chain, as well as your BN S-1 failed both you, and the Army in noticing and fixing this error. My suggestion is to sign into your new unit as soon as your PTDY is over. This will also prevent your new unit asking the question, "Where were you for the last five days?" After a lot of discussion, they will (or should) tell you exactly what I did in the paragraph above. If they don't pick up on it, they have failed too. Doesn't make it "right."
And yes, I am a former BN S-1 NCOIC.
So according to regs, your last day of PTDY should coincide with your report date. Your entire leadership chain, as well as your BN S-1 failed both you, and the Army in noticing and fixing this error. My suggestion is to sign into your new unit as soon as your PTDY is over. This will also prevent your new unit asking the question, "Where were you for the last five days?" After a lot of discussion, they will (or should) tell you exactly what I did in the paragraph above. If they don't pick up on it, they have failed too. Doesn't make it "right."
And yes, I am a former BN S-1 NCOIC.
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