Posted on Jan 9, 2017
Do you think that the private prison industry will see a boom time under Trump?
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If Trump follows through on his campaign promises to set up private prisons, Corecivic and GEO Group may likely stand to benefit. And it will mark a shift away from the Obama administration that has taken steps to move away from private prisons. So do you think that the private prison industry will see a boom time under Trump? Comments please.
Donald Trump
Office of the President (POTUS)
Federal Bureau of Prisons
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PO3 John Wagner
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SSG Ronald Bloodworth
Having worked corrections in both private and public facilities, I believe I have a somewhat unique perspective on this particular issue. One thing many, or even most people don't know is that public and private corrections officers, at least in Georgia, are required to attend the exact same training academy at the Georgia Public Safety Training Center (GPSTC) and become P.O.S.T. (Police Officer Standards and Training) Council Certified before they can be allowed to work in any correctional facility in the state. During the time after graduation from the academy, every single officer attends further training at various intervals as required and must, in accordance with GA state law, attend annual re-certification training in order to retain their P.O.S.T. certification. Failure to attend and qualify for re-certification will result in immediate revocation by the GA P.O.S.T Council. Without this certification, no individual may legally perform any type of law enforcement functions or duties, and doing or attempting to perform such duties without P.O.S.T. certification will result in severe legal penalties. Period. That being said, I can only attest to that with which I have personal knowledge in my own home state.
Now, as to the matter of private entities, Trump "cronies", business partners, or even PEOTUS Trump himself benefiting from such an occurrence, I think there will be more than enough people and groups who despise him who will be watching like hungry hawks for any hint of impropriety for that to happen. Unlike the RINO's and spineless worms who wear the GOP label simply because they know they'll never be elected, or re-elected, to political office any other way, the progressive dems and socialists have no qualms about fighting and will never pull a punch in order to try and ruin Trump and the GOP. I have no doubt in my military mind that they will be looking through microscopes at every single action he takes as a means of trying to bury him, and his entire presidency; especially now that we have rejected their BS and they have just taken their worst ass whipping in over a century because of the Clintons and Obamas.
Regarding my own personal observations while I served in correctional facilities, I perceived more than a few pretty serious deficiencies in the public corrections system over the private facilities.
* Private facilities typically offer a higher rate of pay and have significantly more strict hiring requirement than publicly operated facilities. Since public facilities operate under direct control of state bureaucracy, they also fell under pressure to assist in "lowering welfare roles" and tow the party line of whomever held political sway regardless of the realities of the circumstances inside a given prison.
* As a result, private facilities where I worked had higher quality officers overall than the public facilities and quite a lower attrition and turnover rate.
* The private facilities where I worked also had tended to run far more efficiently than the public facilities. I believe this was probably due to the fact that they had actual people to whom they were accountable, as opposed to the bloated bureaucracy of the state. In other words, failure to perform had pretty immediate consequences, as in getting put out on your ass if you didn't pull your weight.
* Public facilities where I worked tended to operate with what I viewed as dangerously low staffing numbers. One particular public facility where I worked operated almost every shift with just a little more than half the required personnel as prescribed to GDC policies. For instance: I worked at one public facility here that operated my shift with a staff of 45-50 personnel even though the full staff requirement for that shift was 82 personnel. As a direct result of this shortfall, officers as well as inmate were placed in extreme danger. Violent and bloody incidents occurred almost every single day between inmates and their were multiple attacks by inmates on officers. I never had the experience of inmate on officer attacks in a private facility where I worked and inmate on inmate attacks were minimal. I believe this was the result of the company that operated the private facility instituting a program of more efficient and overlapping duty shifts that mitigated staff shortages and also reduced overtime requirements which insured that staff was not overworked or "burned out" when reporting for duty.
* Private facilities where I worked consistently rotated staff through almost every duty post frequently rather than posting certain officers to the most dangerous posts every day. This also prevented "burn out" among staff and increased discipline and efficiency. In one public facility where I worked, I was often assigned, alone, to an "Annex" area of the prison that was far removed from the main prison with over 300 inmates. There, I had no back-up to assist me with maintaining order in the building; back up was at minimum 5 minutes away, and on most occasions when I called, there was no response for at least 30 minutes. The only other duty assignment I had at that particular facility was in the two most violent and dangerous dormitories on the entire compound. When I requested to be transferred or rotated out, the administration's response was that they needed dependable officers to man those posts and they "had nobody else" who could handle those posts. Needless to say, I eventually decided to leave and never return to corrections in a public facility after that time. These types of circumstances never existed in any private facility where I worked, and most duty shifts there were uneventful for almost all of the time. I could not say the same for the public prisons where I worked. I will never walk back into a publicly operated prison to work again, and I say that with the utmost certainty.
Public facilities may not be run by "companies" or turn a profit, but they are immensely more inefficient, wasteful, costly, and downright dangerous than any private facility where I ever worked, even though they housed the exact same inmates as the exact same inmates as the private facilities did.
Now, as to the matter of private entities, Trump "cronies", business partners, or even PEOTUS Trump himself benefiting from such an occurrence, I think there will be more than enough people and groups who despise him who will be watching like hungry hawks for any hint of impropriety for that to happen. Unlike the RINO's and spineless worms who wear the GOP label simply because they know they'll never be elected, or re-elected, to political office any other way, the progressive dems and socialists have no qualms about fighting and will never pull a punch in order to try and ruin Trump and the GOP. I have no doubt in my military mind that they will be looking through microscopes at every single action he takes as a means of trying to bury him, and his entire presidency; especially now that we have rejected their BS and they have just taken their worst ass whipping in over a century because of the Clintons and Obamas.
Regarding my own personal observations while I served in correctional facilities, I perceived more than a few pretty serious deficiencies in the public corrections system over the private facilities.
* Private facilities typically offer a higher rate of pay and have significantly more strict hiring requirement than publicly operated facilities. Since public facilities operate under direct control of state bureaucracy, they also fell under pressure to assist in "lowering welfare roles" and tow the party line of whomever held political sway regardless of the realities of the circumstances inside a given prison.
* As a result, private facilities where I worked had higher quality officers overall than the public facilities and quite a lower attrition and turnover rate.
* The private facilities where I worked also had tended to run far more efficiently than the public facilities. I believe this was probably due to the fact that they had actual people to whom they were accountable, as opposed to the bloated bureaucracy of the state. In other words, failure to perform had pretty immediate consequences, as in getting put out on your ass if you didn't pull your weight.
* Public facilities where I worked tended to operate with what I viewed as dangerously low staffing numbers. One particular public facility where I worked operated almost every shift with just a little more than half the required personnel as prescribed to GDC policies. For instance: I worked at one public facility here that operated my shift with a staff of 45-50 personnel even though the full staff requirement for that shift was 82 personnel. As a direct result of this shortfall, officers as well as inmate were placed in extreme danger. Violent and bloody incidents occurred almost every single day between inmates and their were multiple attacks by inmates on officers. I never had the experience of inmate on officer attacks in a private facility where I worked and inmate on inmate attacks were minimal. I believe this was the result of the company that operated the private facility instituting a program of more efficient and overlapping duty shifts that mitigated staff shortages and also reduced overtime requirements which insured that staff was not overworked or "burned out" when reporting for duty.
* Private facilities where I worked consistently rotated staff through almost every duty post frequently rather than posting certain officers to the most dangerous posts every day. This also prevented "burn out" among staff and increased discipline and efficiency. In one public facility where I worked, I was often assigned, alone, to an "Annex" area of the prison that was far removed from the main prison with over 300 inmates. There, I had no back-up to assist me with maintaining order in the building; back up was at minimum 5 minutes away, and on most occasions when I called, there was no response for at least 30 minutes. The only other duty assignment I had at that particular facility was in the two most violent and dangerous dormitories on the entire compound. When I requested to be transferred or rotated out, the administration's response was that they needed dependable officers to man those posts and they "had nobody else" who could handle those posts. Needless to say, I eventually decided to leave and never return to corrections in a public facility after that time. These types of circumstances never existed in any private facility where I worked, and most duty shifts there were uneventful for almost all of the time. I could not say the same for the public prisons where I worked. I will never walk back into a publicly operated prison to work again, and I say that with the utmost certainty.
Public facilities may not be run by "companies" or turn a profit, but they are immensely more inefficient, wasteful, costly, and downright dangerous than any private facility where I ever worked, even though they housed the exact same inmates as the exact same inmates as the private facilities did.
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A1C Jorge Anderson
Yes, they will as their stocks soared the day after the election. Trump is in the pocket of the Prison guard Union which keeps pushing for laws that are easier and easier to break so that they can keep the prisons full. Private prisons require states to keep 90% occupancy rate or they pay a stiff penalty. This is shameful because they are trying to force the states to keep arresting people. It is not good because it creates victimless crimes which is only meant to create slaves and access the persons Ces que vie trust attached to ones birth certificate and social security. The fact is they need people to become civilly dead so that they can maintain their profits they get from the state, Civl death occurs when you commit a felony.
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This is a program that is ripe with corruption already. Then you look at the "Companies" that will be trusted to run these facilities and what they will be charging the government. So, it will become more of a for profit business and the monies to take care of the Prisoners will start to be shifted to others pockets.
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This is a bad idea. I'm not one for big gov but this is one place that needs to stay under gov control. These people are arrested by the gov and sentence by them. Why should they be controlled by a for profit company. I work in this field it takes a certain type of person who has a certain type of skills to work in this type of environment. You most likely find these people at the wages paid by these institutions. When you have to worry about your bottom line you take shortcuts that are detrimental to the safety of your staff, public, and inmates. States have a hard enough time doing it with out having to turn a profit. Add that and you have a recipe for a whole host of problems.
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