Posted on Nov 13, 2016
Will having tested positive for marijuana affect my contract?
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Yes. And we don't want you. We expect higher standards from our Soldiers not lower standards. Everyone always has a good excuse why they came up hot.
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SGT Alan Dike
DoD Directive (DoDD) 1010.1 - establishes the DoD drug testing program.
AR 635-200 Chapter 14 - section 3, 14-12 c (2) - separation for drug use by regulation could very well be paraphrased "we don't want you"
Separation for Misconduct
Section III
Acts or Patterns of Misconduct
14-12. Conditions that subject soldiers to discharge
Soldiers are subject to action per this section for the following:
a. Minor disciplinary infractions. A pattern of misconduct consisting solely of minor military disciplinary infractions. Except as provided in paragraph 1-13c, if separation of a soldier in entry-level status is warranted solely by reason of minor disciplinary infractions, the action will be processed under chapter 11.
b. A pattern of misconduct. A pattern of misconduct consisting of one of the following:
(1) Discreditable involvement with civil or military authorities.
(2) Discreditable conduct and conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline including conduct violating the accepted standards of personal conduct found in the UCMJ, Army regulations, the civil law, and time-honored customs and traditions of the Army.
c. Commission of a serious offense. Commission of a serious military or civil offense, if the specific circumstances of the offense warrant separation and a punitive discharge is, or would be, authorized for the same or a closely related offense under the MCM.
(1) An absentee returned to military control from a status of absent without leave or desertion may be separated for commission of a serious offense. (See para 1-43 for civil offenses under investigation by foreign authorities.)
(2) Abuse of illegal drugs is serious misconduct.
AR 635-200 Chapter 14 - section 3, 14-12 c (2) - separation for drug use by regulation could very well be paraphrased "we don't want you"
Separation for Misconduct
Section III
Acts or Patterns of Misconduct
14-12. Conditions that subject soldiers to discharge
Soldiers are subject to action per this section for the following:
a. Minor disciplinary infractions. A pattern of misconduct consisting solely of minor military disciplinary infractions. Except as provided in paragraph 1-13c, if separation of a soldier in entry-level status is warranted solely by reason of minor disciplinary infractions, the action will be processed under chapter 11.
b. A pattern of misconduct. A pattern of misconduct consisting of one of the following:
(1) Discreditable involvement with civil or military authorities.
(2) Discreditable conduct and conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline including conduct violating the accepted standards of personal conduct found in the UCMJ, Army regulations, the civil law, and time-honored customs and traditions of the Army.
c. Commission of a serious offense. Commission of a serious military or civil offense, if the specific circumstances of the offense warrant separation and a punitive discharge is, or would be, authorized for the same or a closely related offense under the MCM.
(1) An absentee returned to military control from a status of absent without leave or desertion may be separated for commission of a serious offense. (See para 1-43 for civil offenses under investigation by foreign authorities.)
(2) Abuse of illegal drugs is serious misconduct.
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SSG Kevin McCulley
PFC James Smith - Interesting because if you google it, dictionary companies are changing the definitions of words for political purposes.. They just recently wrote racist to a way that completely changes the meaning.. They recently even redefined woman because it was said to be sexist.. total clown shoes.
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Let me get this straight.....you are signing up to be Infantry..........you KNOW that the Army drug tests people.......and you decided to smoke a bowl? Could you be any more dumb than what you did right there? Honestly, if I were your recruiter, I would take your contract.....send it thru the shredder then set it on fire then dip the ashes in acid and then disavow you ever walked into my station.
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MSG (Join to see)
PO1 Eric Booker - I still struggle with being up to date on the lingo of the youth.
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MCPO (Join to see)
Come on, Tom - you gotta be hep to the jive and be able to groove on what the cats are layin' down on the streets, if you catch my vibe. ;)
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MSG (Join to see)
MCPO (Join to see) - I was able to understand what you said since that is old school street talk........but today's youth....yea, I can barely understand them.
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Honestly, the ONLY reason why I think this was stupid is because it's illegal in the eyes of the military and federal government.
I honestly think it's silly that the military and federal government will let you (highly discourage) get black out drunk or take OxyContin, but won't let people consume marijuana. Alcoholism and pain killer addictions are one hell of a beast compared to weed.
But just because you think it's right, doesn't make it legal. Keep that in mind next time you want to toke.
I honestly think it's silly that the military and federal government will let you (highly discourage) get black out drunk or take OxyContin, but won't let people consume marijuana. Alcoholism and pain killer addictions are one hell of a beast compared to weed.
But just because you think it's right, doesn't make it legal. Keep that in mind next time you want to toke.
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