Posted on Aug 13, 2014
What is missing in today's military that was effective a long time ago?
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The reason why I'm posting this is I notice how we became more distanced from each-other. First, the TV and video games, then the internet, and now the smart phones. Go anywhere around the base where the people just sit and wait. At least half of them have cell, I mean, smart phones out. The other half is watching TV or doing paperwork.
Conversations are becoming more superficial or inappropriate in some instances. Subjects are self-centered and what one wants or is getting in the near-future. Higher-ups are increasingly trash-talking on liberty and are often not viewed as someone to look up to.
What other elements do you notice that were there in the 'good ol days' that would do us some justice? That includes equipment, uniform articles, training, or other intangible elements
Conversations are becoming more superficial or inappropriate in some instances. Subjects are self-centered and what one wants or is getting in the near-future. Higher-ups are increasingly trash-talking on liberty and are often not viewed as someone to look up to.
What other elements do you notice that were there in the 'good ol days' that would do us some justice? That includes equipment, uniform articles, training, or other intangible elements
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A REAL war to fight and a REAL enemy to fight against. A war with clear objectives a clear end state and a clear exit strategy. The "war" on terrorism and the invasion of Iraq are as vague as vague can get and the only Americans standing behind it are those that are cashing in on it. The Taliban is a bunch of hit and run cowards performing unspeakable acts of terrorism against mainly civilian populations. Bring back the Russkies!
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MSG Wade Huffman
You got that one right, Sir! It was, in a strange kind of way, nice to have a reliable enemy that we knew well and understood!
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SrA (Join to see)
That's exactly what I mean when I say its kind of hard to be proud of serving. Don't get me wrong, I am glad I joined and the military is important. But compared to previous wars. The reasoning was rather honorable. Unlike today.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
You should never question your pride in your service SrA (Join to see). There are too many out there who choose not to serve in the military or other service related profession. Until 9/11 hit I thought I'd be one of those post Vietnam vets that would never see any action and lo and behold... Regardless of what you do and what capacity you serve you are an Airman serving your country.
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PO1 (Join to see)
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca, I honestly don't know much of other ways of fighting this war. Got any other ideas?
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As TSgt Terry Hudson and PO1 G. Leslie /Stiltner stated, it is respect. Every one of our Services embrace the values of loyalty, duty, selfless service, honor, integrity, personal courage and respect. I see respect as a fundamental basis of all the other attributes and without it, they suffer.
Respect for our selves, respect for our brethren, respect for our unit, respect for our leaders, and most importantly - respect for our country
Without respect for ourselves and others, we don't hold to standards of conduct and honor and integrity fall by the wayside.
Without respect for the unit and leaders, we don't put the needs of the organization above our own desires and loyalty falls by the wayside.
Without respect for our country, none of the others matter and any reason for selfless service or duty disappear.
Respect for our selves, respect for our brethren, respect for our unit, respect for our leaders, and most importantly - respect for our country
Without respect for ourselves and others, we don't hold to standards of conduct and honor and integrity fall by the wayside.
Without respect for the unit and leaders, we don't put the needs of the organization above our own desires and loyalty falls by the wayside.
Without respect for our country, none of the others matter and any reason for selfless service or duty disappear.
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Amongst the other great responses, I put forth the stagnant inability to advance and promote worthy troops, enlisted, warrant, and commissioned officer alike before they have put in their "dues" and mandatory time in grade/service. There was a time not so long ago in military history where we were less politically correct, political, and touchy-feely and were able to advance those who succeeded.
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COL Randall C.
Capt (Join to see), I'm not so sure about waiving the TIG requirements for promotions. One of the reasons they were put in place was BECAUSE it was very political and you were having people promoted way beyond their peers, and not necessarily because of worth (there were a few, but most were based on who they knew).
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PO1 (Join to see)
I also observed that when you take your eyes off mission, you begin to disrespect without realizing
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RESPECT! Across the board I've seen young service members disrespect our superiors! It's doesn't matter if they are in the same branch! If you're an E4 and they're an E6 they outrank you!
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TSgt Terry Hudson
I wonder the same thing! I think the military is slowly forgetting we're military! There was a time when a E3 wouldn't dare ask an E4 why, I'm not saying this because I'm an E4 but because that's how it should be! With every rank!
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PO1 (Join to see)
TSgt Terry Hudson, sounds to me like there's only one branch that still adheres tightly to rank structure: The Few, The Proud
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SN (Join to see)
I agree that people new to the military are more disrespectful. However, they baby people going through bootcamp. At least in the Navy. They give them iPads now...WTF?
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TSgt Terry Hudson
PO1 Dronzin I think every branch should compare themselves to the Marines when it comes to military bearing.
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