Posted on Feb 11, 2016
Is there anything that covers Commissioned Officers not returning a salute?
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Simple example:
I pass an officer, I salute him, he knowledges me so I know he saw my salute ,but he does not salute back.
I pass an officer, I salute him, he knowledges me so I know he saw my salute ,but he does not salute back.
Posted 9 y ago
Responses: 41
If the officer does not have a valid reason for not returning the salute such as his hands being full, than he is piece of shit. You correct it on the spot and if they will not return it do your best to track down their supervisor. I don't think this is covered as an Art 92 violation, but the superior can a fix behavior like this or help this officer to the door.
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SSG James Elmore
So everyone knows there is no more to the story-
This was stateside, on post, in ACUs, outdoors, not under arms, nothing in his hands, no broken arm, exc....
Just an officer and an NCO walking past each other and the officer not returning a salute when there were no extenuating circumstances.
This was stateside, on post, in ACUs, outdoors, not under arms, nothing in his hands, no broken arm, exc....
Just an officer and an NCO walking past each other and the officer not returning a salute when there were no extenuating circumstances.
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SSG John Dunshee
Once upon a time, on a kaserne far, far away. I was walking across the kaserne and came upon the CG and his CSM walking the other way. I popped off a regulation hi-ball and gave the greeting of the day, whereupon the CSM returned by salute and they both kept walking. The CG's hand never twitched.
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Maj John Bell
As a Company Commander, all my Sgts and above participated in a push-ups for charity event. We had one hour and got people to pledge on how many push-ups we could do in an hour. Let's just say there wasn't a lot of saluting going on for the next couple of days.. The Sgt Major suggested that we each be assigned a Cpl to work our arm for us when a salute was called for. [I think he also used the word "dumbasses" repeatedly as he was explaining the plan.]
It was on a Navy base and the Admiral stepped in and announced a three day moratorium on saluting since a lot of commands had men that couldn't render a hand salute for a day or two.
But in general, if the customs and courtesies require a salute any officer than can render a salute and doesn't, needs a boot in the ass.
It was on a Navy base and the Admiral stepped in and announced a three day moratorium on saluting since a lot of commands had men that couldn't render a hand salute for a day or two.
But in general, if the customs and courtesies require a salute any officer than can render a salute and doesn't, needs a boot in the ass.
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SSG John Dunshee - That CSM was explaining to you, that he was with a CG who was not likely to return your salute. Also, that he didn't agree with this, but didn't want to hear about it.
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I consider it an honor and a privilege to salute my superiors and subordinates alike. /O
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt I was a maintainer for alot of years, In motor poole while working with tools is a no go not only is it not safe, that should be understood. I slept there many a night. We didn't leave until the mission was done. My command had signs posted no salute zone. They had our backs sense is common not necessarily common sense.
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AR 600-25
i. Salutes are not required to be rendered or returned when the senior or subordinate, or both are—
(1) In civilian attire.
(2) Engaged in routine work if the salute would interfere.
(3) Carrying articles with both hands so occupied as to make saluting impracticable.
(4) Working as a member of a detail, or engaged in sports or social functions where saluting would present a safety
hazard.
(5) In public places such as theaters, churches, and in public conveyances.
(6) In the ranks of a formation.
I suppose it could fall under public places
i. Salutes are not required to be rendered or returned when the senior or subordinate, or both are—
(1) In civilian attire.
(2) Engaged in routine work if the salute would interfere.
(3) Carrying articles with both hands so occupied as to make saluting impracticable.
(4) Working as a member of a detail, or engaged in sports or social functions where saluting would present a safety
hazard.
(5) In public places such as theaters, churches, and in public conveyances.
(6) In the ranks of a formation.
I suppose it could fall under public places
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MGySgt Jerry Suarez
All salutes require acknowledgment with a return salute. The situations above are not the norm. Most officers with the exception of very Jr officers wont be carrying soooooo many items that they wont be able to return a salute. If an officer does not return a salute and is not in one of the situations above stop him/her and let them know politely and with tact that you gave them the proper respect by rendering a salute and should receive one in return. No one has too much rank to be corrected or be professional!
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MSG Michael Gay
Prisoners are not allowed to salute! At least that was true a few decades ago. If you are carrying something in both hands you are not required to salute but must recognize the rank with a greeting of the day. If you are in any group on a detail or training etc. a person in charge or one takes charge and salutes for the group.
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MSG Michael Gay
I learned from Drill Sergeants Academy that on the spot corrections should be made to Commissioned Officers if they failed to return a salute or gave a sloppy wave as returning a salute. A few times, while marching troops if I was not the only Drill Sergeant I would double time to a point in front of the Officer, report and advise them that as an on the spot correction, I told him that I saluted him and that he “waved at me instead of returning a salute. Once I did that to three Lt. Walking together. I saluted and double timed back to my troops. I heard one say to the others, “I thing that that Drill Sergeant just chewed our asses! Another time a Lt reported to our Bn Commander that I had corrected him. The CO said that if I had not made the correction he would chew my ass out. He then told him that he would NEVER return a salute in a sloppy manner again on this Army Post! ~400719:MGySgt Jerry Suarez]
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