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Saw this today on an e-mail I get from Washpo:
— As Russia intensified its airstrikes in Syria, Clinton broke with the Obama White House to urge a no-fly zone in the country. “I personally would be advocating now for a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air, to try to provide some way to take stock of what’s happening, to try to stem the flow of refugees,” the former secretary of state said in a local TV interview in Boston after a campaign event. “I think Putin is playing a very dangerous and cynical game. He’s clearly doing everything he can to prop up Assad and to establish sort of a Russian presence in Syria and the broader Middle East.”
U.S. intelligence officials say it has become increasingly clear that Russia is targeting U.S.-backed rebel strongholds, NOT areas controlled by ISIS, in a bid to keep Bashar al-Assad in power. Russian officials deny this, claiming that they are targeting “terrorist” groups. “If it looks like a terrorist, if it acts like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist, if it fights like a terrorist, it’s a terrorist,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in New York."
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Enforcing a no-fly zone would require firing on Russian aircraft. I almost typed "Soviet". HRC is a super hawk any way, but that is nuts.
What is happening in Syria now is the type of event back in the 70's and '80s that it was thought could touch off a nuclear war between the US and USSR. It is pretty freaking dangerous now.
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I kinda mean for this to be a discussion of what is happening in Syria now. If Putin is targeting groups favored by the U.S. --- no one ever even thought that up in a movie.
Walt
— As Russia intensified its airstrikes in Syria, Clinton broke with the Obama White House to urge a no-fly zone in the country. “I personally would be advocating now for a no-fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air, to try to provide some way to take stock of what’s happening, to try to stem the flow of refugees,” the former secretary of state said in a local TV interview in Boston after a campaign event. “I think Putin is playing a very dangerous and cynical game. He’s clearly doing everything he can to prop up Assad and to establish sort of a Russian presence in Syria and the broader Middle East.”
U.S. intelligence officials say it has become increasingly clear that Russia is targeting U.S.-backed rebel strongholds, NOT areas controlled by ISIS, in a bid to keep Bashar al-Assad in power. Russian officials deny this, claiming that they are targeting “terrorist” groups. “If it looks like a terrorist, if it acts like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist, if it fights like a terrorist, it’s a terrorist,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in New York."
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Enforcing a no-fly zone would require firing on Russian aircraft. I almost typed "Soviet". HRC is a super hawk any way, but that is nuts.
What is happening in Syria now is the type of event back in the 70's and '80s that it was thought could touch off a nuclear war between the US and USSR. It is pretty freaking dangerous now.
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I kinda mean for this to be a discussion of what is happening in Syria now. If Putin is targeting groups favored by the U.S. --- no one ever even thought that up in a movie.
Walt
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Capt Walter Miller
The Rethugs made her seem like the Queen of the Amazons yesterday. They are the biggest fools in government.
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"Hillary is a super hawk"...That is a good one. Hillary was hitting the reset button with the Russians just a few years ago convinced she could beguile them into submission. Now, after the Crimea, meddling in the Ukraine and the bombing in Syria she finds a backbone...I think not.
She is now saying what is politically expedient to prop her up in the polls on the democrat side of the aisle. It is now obvious to everyone, including Hillary, the Obama foreign policy approach with the Russians and in the middle east is a disaster and is not working by almost any standard.
You are correct though, a no fly zone in Syria! Who is going to enforce that and who is going to clear a pilot hot to shoot down a Russian airplane. The answer is, no one. This should come as no surprise even to the casual observer. The Russians have supported the Assad's for decades (daddy and son) and are going to strike when the see the US at it's weakest. We have been unable to cobble together an Army we spent millions on to field.
We have no strategy in the middle east to speak of. Obama is clearly trying to talk his way out of the issue with zero threat of a use of force that has any credibility to it. He met with Russia at the UN and a couple of days later they are bombing the people we support. What message do you think Putin received from Obama...The answer is, weakness.
She is now saying what is politically expedient to prop her up in the polls on the democrat side of the aisle. It is now obvious to everyone, including Hillary, the Obama foreign policy approach with the Russians and in the middle east is a disaster and is not working by almost any standard.
You are correct though, a no fly zone in Syria! Who is going to enforce that and who is going to clear a pilot hot to shoot down a Russian airplane. The answer is, no one. This should come as no surprise even to the casual observer. The Russians have supported the Assad's for decades (daddy and son) and are going to strike when the see the US at it's weakest. We have been unable to cobble together an Army we spent millions on to field.
We have no strategy in the middle east to speak of. Obama is clearly trying to talk his way out of the issue with zero threat of a use of force that has any credibility to it. He met with Russia at the UN and a couple of days later they are bombing the people we support. What message do you think Putin received from Obama...The answer is, weakness.
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Capt Walter Miller this is like playing devils advocate after her Benghazi and e-mail fiasco. She has a lot of trust to gain, my question is where does it start?
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Capt Walter Miller
She's nuts.
There are Russian aircraft -- based now in Syria. If anyone is half awake , HRC just deep-sixed her own campaign if it is true she called for a no-fly zone enforced by US aircraft.
Walt
There are Russian aircraft -- based now in Syria. If anyone is half awake , HRC just deep-sixed her own campaign if it is true she called for a no-fly zone enforced by US aircraft.
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