Posted on Oct 1, 2015
What do you think of combat MOS marines like me who have nothing or are homeless and treated like 2nd class citizens?
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I want to know what the military family thinks. Men like me came out of the service only to find no job skills. This isn't about transition alone like go and get help to make it work bull. Like men like me who had to bury a kid on the side of the road I killed due to bad Intel and orders. I'm sure there are many on this topic not even in my generation. Before 2001 our military was about fighting wars and winning battles. I had two very good mentors who raised me into this mind set at 14 and 16. One was senior enlisted marines force recon and one was senior enlisted army scout in veitnam. When I say I was a hell of a good sgt in the marines it was because of these men and the men who made and molded me into their own self image. The military isn't brain washing it is all about emulating.
Posted 9 y ago
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Sgt Andrew Zapf . You have skills you simply may be overlooking them or underestimating them. As a Marine NCO you were taught many things civilian employers would value. Don't look at yourself as a rifleman but as a unit leader. Lean on the skills you were taught. Try starting at a company in a more basic position and working your way up. Show them the leadership skills you have the self discipline, attention to detail etc. You will likely outwork/outperform most around you.
Don't look at yourself as a victim and that someone did something to you. That is simply not true. You decided to join the Marines, you decided to get out. You are not a second class citizen., You have to shake the "damaged goods" mindset and move forward. The sooner you stop feeling sorry for yourself and take responsibility for where you are in life and who got you there and start becoming responsible to move forward you will be better off.
I have a son that is a Sergeant in the Marines (amtracker by MOS) too. He left active duty, stayed in the reserves, is going to school full time and has a wife and daughter. He is working a basic job (technician in a MFG plant) to make income while going to school full time. If he can do it, you can do it. I did it, thousands others do it, so can you. Do not become a victim, it will not serve you well.
That is about as candid as I can be. I don't know you or your exact situation so it is not easy to give more specific advice. I've been out 30 years now so I have some experience at life post Marine Corps.
Don't look at yourself as a victim and that someone did something to you. That is simply not true. You decided to join the Marines, you decided to get out. You are not a second class citizen., You have to shake the "damaged goods" mindset and move forward. The sooner you stop feeling sorry for yourself and take responsibility for where you are in life and who got you there and start becoming responsible to move forward you will be better off.
I have a son that is a Sergeant in the Marines (amtracker by MOS) too. He left active duty, stayed in the reserves, is going to school full time and has a wife and daughter. He is working a basic job (technician in a MFG plant) to make income while going to school full time. If he can do it, you can do it. I did it, thousands others do it, so can you. Do not become a victim, it will not serve you well.
That is about as candid as I can be. I don't know you or your exact situation so it is not easy to give more specific advice. I've been out 30 years now so I have some experience at life post Marine Corps.
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1SG Michael Blount
Cpl Jeff N. - if it's possible to have one shot and two kills, Devil, your comment did it.
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I'll be as honest with you as I would if you were standing in front of me. The military does a pretty decent job of giving you the tools to succeed after the military. On top of that, I believe there are more than enough resources available after this transition. While everyone's story is different, and all problems for individuals pose thier unique circumstances, anything can be overcome with perseverance and determination.
I got out of the army after 7 years and went through hell. Plans didn't work, jobs didn't line up and despite all my efforts, I landed flat on my face. This wasn't the reason I came back in the service but the experiences taught me a valuable lesson about life.
But through it all, I picked myself and pushed on. You can laugh this comment away as a cliche remark but I refuse to accept complete defeat and as I said in an earlier post, sometimes you just have to fail in order to know what success looks like.
I apologize if your offended but get on your feet Marine and get it done.
I got out of the army after 7 years and went through hell. Plans didn't work, jobs didn't line up and despite all my efforts, I landed flat on my face. This wasn't the reason I came back in the service but the experiences taught me a valuable lesson about life.
But through it all, I picked myself and pushed on. You can laugh this comment away as a cliche remark but I refuse to accept complete defeat and as I said in an earlier post, sometimes you just have to fail in order to know what success looks like.
I apologize if your offended but get on your feet Marine and get it done.
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One step at a time brother. Do what you need to do to be successful in the path that you've choosen. Utilize the same effots as you did in combat keep moving. Don't let the boogie man catch up with you. Stay Strong and Faithful. God Bless.
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Sgt Andrew Zapf
Well said. I have become successful since that time. Adapt and over come any situation. I am extremely resourceful
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