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Posted on Dec 5, 2022
Should Donald Trump run for President in 2024?
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Should these recent events disqualify him?
1. He took classified documents and stored them in unlocked rooms.
2. He had dinner with two known antisemitic men.
3. He is now talking about suspending the Constitution.
Should he disqualify himself? In 2020 he said Biden was too old to become President. If Trump is reelected in 2024, he will be five months older than the age Biden was in 2020.
1. He took classified documents and stored them in unlocked rooms.
2. He had dinner with two known antisemitic men.
3. He is now talking about suspending the Constitution.
Should he disqualify himself? In 2020 he said Biden was too old to become President. If Trump is reelected in 2024, he will be five months older than the age Biden was in 2020.
Posted 2 y ago
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Posted 2 y ago
Speaking as someone who does not want him to run, I will still address your points. However, whether I vote for him or not, which is really the question, depends on the candidate the Dems put up should Trump win the nomination (which I do not think he will this time around).
1. He did not "take" classified documents, he retained them and fought with the Library of Congress as to whether he could continue holding on to them. The documents were not left in an unlocked room, that is a complete mischaracterization of the information released. They were stored in his resort in offices not accessible to anyone without authorization and he still has Secret Service personnel providing security to his Mara Lago resort. To say they were unprotected is a farce. Had this been the case, the FBI would have retrieved them a long time ago.
2. Maybe so and the facts are still coming out about that. Having dinner with antisemitic people does not make one antisemitic. You do know his son-in-law and his daughter are Jewish right? I assume you also noted his support to Israel as President right? The fact is, we have no idea how the dinner played out, what happened, what they may have talked about, etc. This is why it is important to get all the facts before judging people.
3. Trump, as usual, spoke irrationally and I personally think he never meant "suspend the Constitution" as he was referring to rules in general on the Twitter topic. He's frustrated about Twitter's actions to suppress information and rightfully so. However, the way he articulates his frustration and such is what I take issue with. Not because I believe he wants to do away with the Constitution. There are plenty of folks on the left who want to do away with all kinds of parts of the Constitution (Right bear arms, Electoral College, some even want to allow children and illegal immigrants to vote). What Trump said in typical Trump fashion, not separating and qualifying his statements, was stupid and yes, it is a big reason why I do not want him to run.
With that said, I will not be voting for him in the Primaries. The General election has yet to be determined, but a second term for Biden I believe will be much worse. Either way, we'd be screwed, which is why I say it is time for the American people to start promoting my generation (X) and end the Baby Boomer era of control over the office of the President (and several other significant positions). It's not their age I'm concerned about so much (although Biden absolutely looks like he doesn't know where he is or what he's doing), it's their ability to grasp today's issues and resonate better with the American people. Trump and Biden are both set in their ways and way too polarizing, so I have little desire to see either of them continue. There are better options out there. But if you think Trump or even Biden will "disqualify" themselves, I don't think you understand these people that well. In the end, even two new candidates will be turned into polarizing figures, but I didn't like either one of these two before they chose to run from President. Finally, if you're going to use those three points to call for Trump to disqualify himself, have you ever put thought to Biden's questionable actions and statements? They're essentially two peas in the same pod.
1. He did not "take" classified documents, he retained them and fought with the Library of Congress as to whether he could continue holding on to them. The documents were not left in an unlocked room, that is a complete mischaracterization of the information released. They were stored in his resort in offices not accessible to anyone without authorization and he still has Secret Service personnel providing security to his Mara Lago resort. To say they were unprotected is a farce. Had this been the case, the FBI would have retrieved them a long time ago.
2. Maybe so and the facts are still coming out about that. Having dinner with antisemitic people does not make one antisemitic. You do know his son-in-law and his daughter are Jewish right? I assume you also noted his support to Israel as President right? The fact is, we have no idea how the dinner played out, what happened, what they may have talked about, etc. This is why it is important to get all the facts before judging people.
3. Trump, as usual, spoke irrationally and I personally think he never meant "suspend the Constitution" as he was referring to rules in general on the Twitter topic. He's frustrated about Twitter's actions to suppress information and rightfully so. However, the way he articulates his frustration and such is what I take issue with. Not because I believe he wants to do away with the Constitution. There are plenty of folks on the left who want to do away with all kinds of parts of the Constitution (Right bear arms, Electoral College, some even want to allow children and illegal immigrants to vote). What Trump said in typical Trump fashion, not separating and qualifying his statements, was stupid and yes, it is a big reason why I do not want him to run.
With that said, I will not be voting for him in the Primaries. The General election has yet to be determined, but a second term for Biden I believe will be much worse. Either way, we'd be screwed, which is why I say it is time for the American people to start promoting my generation (X) and end the Baby Boomer era of control over the office of the President (and several other significant positions). It's not their age I'm concerned about so much (although Biden absolutely looks like he doesn't know where he is or what he's doing), it's their ability to grasp today's issues and resonate better with the American people. Trump and Biden are both set in their ways and way too polarizing, so I have little desire to see either of them continue. There are better options out there. But if you think Trump or even Biden will "disqualify" themselves, I don't think you understand these people that well. In the end, even two new candidates will be turned into polarizing figures, but I didn't like either one of these two before they chose to run from President. Finally, if you're going to use those three points to call for Trump to disqualify himself, have you ever put thought to Biden's questionable actions and statements? They're essentially two peas in the same pod.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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PO2 John Trujillo there are 187 responses in this thread. You’ll have to be a little specific.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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SFC Jo Ann Klawitter I’ve never said or suggested otherwise. I also have the right to no longer listen to some when they become rude or disrespectful.
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Posted 2 y ago
I hope not! In my opinion, he does not embrace our value system and integrity! These factors and questionable behaviors are not consistent with the leader of the free world!
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CW2 Jesus Torres
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I encourage you and others on this platform to tune in to my upcoming podcast. We really need to band together and push back on these Jurassic period politicians and bring forth the NEW GOP - Government Of the People. Salute to you all, even those with differing views.
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PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster
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TSgt William Cramer - Amen. This is just what many want to have happen: division and distraction from the issues. In re: SrA Eareckson: there is CONFIRMATION of accountability in re: E Jean Carroll (millions of dollars in setllement). There is also the matter of 34 convictions in NY court. TSgt Cramer is correct in saying that we, as veterans, must be respectful of all fellow veterans, POV and most of all, rise to the occassion, showing the US, that we agree to disagree, but will ALWAYS be mature and above the disrespec
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PO1 David Wong
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Any person who would declare that the men and women who served in the military and paid the ultimate sacrifice are "Losers and suckers" does not belong in the Commander in Chief's office...
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Posted 2 y ago
Along with your three points, we need to remember additional accusations (tampering with Georgia electors, egregious tax fraud, January 6th involvement, etc.)
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23306941/donald-trump-crimes-criminal-investigation-mar-a-lago-fbi-january-6-election-georgia-new-york
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23306941/donald-trump-crimes-criminal-investigation-mar-a-lago-fbi-january-6-election-georgia-new-york
The 4 major criminal probes into Donald Trump, explained
Keeping track of all the criminal investigations of Trump isn’t easy, so we did it for you.
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PFC Clifford Kelley
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CPL LaForest Gray I can tell you know nothing about me. I am of mixed race. I have African American, Latin American, Native American and Scottish American in me. As I said before your actions make me call you a race baiter as your comment about me has shown. And your little tantrum has shown that you have the reasoning abilities of a little boy! Therefore I call you a little boy! Being of mixed decent I have seen many race baiters like you! Some were brown some were white, but they all had 1 thing in common! They could not see past their own hatred and racism! So as you have shown you are not only a race baiter but a racist to boot!!!! So continue your racist rants and one day you will try it on the wrong man! LITTLE BOY!!!
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