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Posted on Sep 10, 2021
MG Gale Pollock
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SFC Jim Ruether
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Ma'am clicking a seatbelt across my chest isn't the same as somone injecting an unknown medicine or other liquid into my arm and telling me there are some bad side effects that I should be aware of.

They don't know what they are just yet because you are currently our lab rats and we'll watch you first. If you develope a nasty disease or symptom it will be dually noted.

Then we will gather your children and grand children and inject them even though the death rate of a child is currently at .10 of 1 % and they shouldn't need a vaccination. But we are going to do it anyway and see what happens?

No vaccine is 100 percent effective all the time, and certain people could have a higher chance of developing a serious COVID-19 case even if they're vaccinated.

So you are saying I could get very sick, it won't stop me from spreading it to others and it may not even protect me? I have had the virus twice and I know my body is protected by the Anti-bodies my own body produced and this was verified by the Red Cross.

So keep your un-tested shot because that's what it is. A vaccine is medicine that is proven to work which this is not and the tests aren't in yet on this rush to production, rush to use. This is my humble opinion and others may arrive at the same or similiar conclusions.
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SPC Richard Cantrell
SPC Richard Cantrell
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1SG Jack Don - I'm not the countries guinea pig so kiss my ass 1sg. Also you can take that experimental jab and shove it up your backside.
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SPC Richard Cantrell
SPC Richard Cantrell
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CPO Arthur Weinberger - Chief you need to take several steps back away from the koolaid so you can see the lies the government is spewing about these jabs. They are not safe for anyone. A vaccine is suppose to protect you from getting the virus these so called vaccines will not do that at all.
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SFC Lyle Green
SFC Lyle Green
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Ha A mandatory injection of ??? for something you have to be tested for to even know if you might have it, a test PCR that has been proven world wide to be 68% ineffective. Makes sense> Typical Government.
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SFC Lyle Green
SFC Lyle Green
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MSgt Earl King - Oh now it's "Trump" again. Bleach? well bucko get your head out of you BS main stream brainwash media. Hydroxychloroquine, bleach as you ill informed uh...??? screen zombies call it, has been on the market, proven effective, safe, and un licensed (no big pharma $$ exempt) and would have made that and this BS Crock 19 nothing more than "just another flu", Oh, the demo regime destroyed 62 million doses of Hydroxychloroquine that ole "Trump" manufactured, to allow you all to get the unproven, experimental, proven toxin, mRNA bio weapon killer vaccine. Now proven world wide by over 43 countries to have murdered more people than the planed, forced, liar based killer vaccine of all 3 major drug pusher corps. #$$$$$$$. A needless, destructive power play that ruined millions of lives, murderous side effects causing massive death, disability, turbo cancers, 10 jyr olds having heart attacks and the list is endless. Now they are trying it again. Oh! Ever read the fed regs. for exp. drugs? Mandatory Signed Consent? Mandatory full explanation to jabees of side effects? No. Know its useless to try to tell many the truth, but now under pressure, check out the CDC VARS, DMED report of damage disability of mRNA on military personal, FDA new reports, over 70 medical reports adverse effects, deformed, dead babies, miscarriages, heart, brain, lung damages, then stop cursing the "conspiracy theorists".
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LT Charles Baird
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Let me just touch the first three points:

First…There are risks in all medical interventions and treatments of disease--but the risks from COVID are higher.
According to the CDCs website the numbers in the United States as of September 10, 2021 are as follows:
Confirmed Cases: 41,387,625
Deaths: 669,184
Percentage of people who die = 0.0161%
Equating to a survival rate of 99.984%

Influenza Numbers according to the CDC’s Website:

The CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million and 45 million illnesses and between 12,000 and 61,000 deaths ANNUALLY since 2010.
So taking the high numbers of 45 million Confirmed Illnesses and 61,100 deaths ANNUALLY you end up with:
Confirmed Cases 45 Million (45,000,000)
Deaths: 61,100
Percentage of people who die = 0.0135%
Equating to a survival rate of: 99.986%

Difference = 0.002% more deaths due to Influenza
Based on the numbers from the CDC it would seem that the risk of dying from the flu are higher.

Second, military members all take an oath when we enter--to protect and defend against enemies--foreign and domestic.
Actually the oath says to Defend the CONSTITUTION from all enemies foreign and domestic – KEY WORD here is CONSTITUTION. No where does it mention the American public (maybe it should, but it doesn't so let's keep it in context). I, ____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Third, when we are vaccinated, we are protecting one another just like we would do on other battlefields of war.
Over 90% of those on Active Service never see a battlefield of war – most don’t even get deployed to a hostile area and those that do most of them do not see any battle and never pull a trigger. Less than 1% of all military members see actual combat. So your really not protecting one another on other battlefields of war if your not on the battlefield. Now I know people will say you don't actually have to be on the battlefield to protect one another - yeah, you do - making sure my pay goes in each pay period, or MRE's are sent forward, or sitting is a cushy pentagon office chair is not protecting me on the battlefield, being right next to me in the foxhole taking fire alongside me and providing cover fire is protecting me (this is just an example).
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CPO Nate S.
CPO Nate S.
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So, let's talk about military readiness. Here are just a few articles regarding military readiness and COVID-19 to consider:

- https://inss.ndu.edu/Media/News/Article/2145282/ready-or-not-regaining-military-readiness-during-covid19/
- https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2021/11/02/ops-readiness-concerns-loom-over-militarys-covid-19-vaccination-deadlines/
- https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/04/22/covid-19-and-military-readiness-preparing-for-the-long-game/
- https://mwi.usma.edu/us-army-readiness-from-covid-19-to-the-crises-of-tomorrow/
https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column_article/how-will-covid-19-impact-u-s-military-readiness
- http://euromil.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Pandemics-and-Military-Readiness.pdf
- https://www.rand.org/topics/operational-readiness.html
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7537208/ (*** This language from this paper was striking: "...The perceived need for military contributions to manage the COVID‐19 outbreak was boosted by the militarization of the crisis situation. Indeed, the COVID‐19 crisis was rapidly militarized as it spread around the globe. Political leaders adopted and embraced the metaphor of war in their speeches to emphasize the gravity of the situation and legitimize their far‐reaching decisions. New York's governor Cuomo, for instance, stated that ‘[t]his is a war, we have to treat it like a war’ (Walters, 2020). French president Macron also declared “war” on the virus before announcing a military‐style operation (i.e. Operation Resilience) (“Macron launches army Operation”, 2020). A BBC‐article summarized it nicely by stating: “Healthcare workers are on the frontlines, scientists are the new generals, economists draw up battle plans, politicians call for mobilization” (Bernhard, 2020)...." So, why was it striking IMHO? Simple, when civilian leaders use the "...language of war..." without themselves ever having taken up the uniform in service to their country and they attempt to leverage the rhetoric of war for political gain, such language can actually help lose the war they think they are fighting, precisely because they are ill prepared and improperly trained to prosecute such when they are only adorned with "...the words of the warrior..." without such experience. Our nation has declared "...a war on drugs...", "...a war on poverty...", "...a war on injustice...", etc. and still, we have these scourges on the complexion of our society. Why? Oh, the paper closes with these words "... it remains crucial to work together with civilian counterparts to ensure protection of civilian control and civil rights, and collectively pursue goals that have been identified by civilian authorities." It is the wording "...civil rights..." that is interesting here.

A brief scan of these articles also indicates that "military readiness" is the Scouting Motto "Be Prepared" personified! My specialty, degree, and training are in "Preventive Medicine / Operational Public Health" and my military / post-military career is and has been involved in explaining the role "prevention" plays in preparedness (i.e. readiness). I am > 65 and fully vaccinated. Our role as military men and women is to follow orders, but not blindly. We have a duty to question with "...all due respect..." expecting our leaders to tell us "...the truth..." without spin and "...on balance...".

Personally, as I stated then and restate now the Commanding Officer of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, was right to speak to the impact rampant COVID infection was having on the military readiness of this powerful emblem of American resolve. Yet, there were those who did not understand his unique perspective and DUTY to those he was leading and those he SWORE to "...preserve, protect, and defend against ALL enemies both foreign and domestic...". How quickly some forget those words and the gravity that possesses who have willingly "...without mental reservation or purpose of evasion..." have repeated these words.

Also, like some, people when provided HONEST and COMPLETE information, have a choice to make for their own health. There is a HUGE difference in BULLYING people into compliance and appealing to there better angles when one has the courage to be forthright. Following "...just orders..." for the greater good even when you don't understand everything at stake is all about - trust. I get it, TRUST, of our leaders is at a premium, especially in today's politically charged environment where every opportunity is "...weaponized..." because the real bullies are those who cannot see either the forest or the trees. I have been their and know that issue of not trusting leaders - ALL TO WELL!!! When you don't trust your leadership, you are compromised on so many levels!!! Just saying.........

Next, I want to thank LT Charles Baird for his comments regarding Flu vs COVID and the important "data" he laid out. Plus allow me to clarify something. Regardless if you the < 10% deployed to a combat zone or the 90% that are not ALL have a mutual responsibility to protect each outer. If the supply department is not able to get "...beans and bullets and bandages..." to the "1%" who are "...seeing and living the hell of the combat environment..." because their mission is compromised due to trained supply chain personnel being unable to perform their assigned duties because of illness, then those men and women on the frontline - DIE!!! And that is a reality this Navy Chief Hospital Corpsman is ALL TO AWARE OF!!!

Finally, full disclosure, I know MG Gale Pollock. A fine lady and excellent general officer with war zone experience. For those commenting about her status as a nurse and her qualifications to comment, unless you have a special insight into her skills or background that I do not, please be careful with your comments that, when read on the surface (i.e. at 1st blush), seem to be calling her integrity as a medical professional into account because she is choosing to comment on this important issue for the greater good.

In closing, my wife, also USN Retired in her 70s commented, "I am not going to get a 4 or 5th 'booster' shot. I got the two and a booster." She also gets the flu shot each year! She, like MG Pollack, is also a nurse!!! In other words, create an annual "flu shot" type process and let's move on. BTW the rate of annual flu shots is interesting to note, especially when juxtaposed to the comments of Navy Lt. Baird {https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/flu-vaccination-rate/ (or) https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/index.htm}.

Just some humble comments...
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LT Charles Baird
LT Charles Baird
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CPO Nate S. - Thank you for your comments, Shipmate
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CPO Nate S.
CPO Nate S.
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LT Charles Baird You are welcome!
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CPT Patrick Butler
CPT Patrick Butler
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LT Charles Baird - You are getting to the root of the issue now, the military servicemember is NOT in the high risk category for COVID, the virus itself is not a severe impact on readiness, it was the response by leadership which morphed the entire thing into controlling people thru lockdowns, masks, mandatory vaccines, with crazy examples such as families can't attend a funeral, see their loved ones in hospital and even denying treatment to unvaccinated. https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/02/22/federal-governments-long-shameful-record-of-failures-in-battling-covid-19/
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https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/wuhan-lab-documents-show-fauci-untruthful-about-research-critics/

If I am reading this right: The guy that made COVID has been leading us through how to survive it, and now is advising our top leaders to trust his friends in companies he has financial ties to force all of us to use their product to fight the disease he made?
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SPC Matt Ovaska
SPC Matt Ovaska
5 mo
My son was clubbed to death. His death cert. said Covid. Everybody died of covid to scare the public and sell harmful drugs to make a profit.
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SrA Cecelia Eareckson
SrA Cecelia Eareckson
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SPC Matt Ovaska - Sorry for your loss.
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PO1 William Van Syckle
PO1 William Van Syckle
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SPC Joel Quey - how about all the people who took the vaccines and are dead or have severe health problems. Answer that one…..
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SPC Joel Quey
SPC Joel Quey
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PO1 William Van Syckle - 1. There weren't actually that many.
2. All of the evidence shows that the vaccines saved exponentially more lives than they harmed.
3. Basically all medical interventions result in people who are dead or have severe health problems. People die from Tylenol.
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Insurance companies have a strong financial incentive for their customers live longer and not get sick. There's a reason they are all willing to pay, to give anyone with their insurance a free Covid vaccine.

It's like they say - follow the money.
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